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    Advice me for transformation please

    Hello friends,
    I am 21yo and 5'10'' tall
    I weight 85KG or 187 pounds
    I am about 18% body fat ( need to lose about 8KG or 17 pounds of Fat )
    and gain muscle if possible

    I have 6 months vacation in which I am totally free to go gym as I want

    I have many steroids also in hand like DBol , Anavar , Clenbuterol , T3, Test E
    anastrozole and letrozole both for Anti E, Nolvadex for SERM, Clomid for Recovery and HCG to mimic LH & FSH

    I am thinking of first doing a DBol only cycle
    30-40Mg per day for 6 weeks followed by 6 weeks off period (PCT)

    then Dbol+Test E cycle for 12 Weeks followed by PCT

    during all the time I will be doing Carb Cycling diet
    LC LC HC LC LC HC MC
    Low carb = 100g Carbs
    high carb = 250g Carbs
    Med Carb = 150g Carbs

    During this Time I will workout 6 days a week
    4 Days Lifting(Moderate to Intense) and 6 Days Cardio (Moderate Cardio)

    I am planning a Dbol Only Cycle to retain or actually gain some muscle if possible (Water retention is not a problem because I will be tracking my progress from body fat %)

    I will use Clen during PCT to keep the muscle I gained from Cycle

    sorry for the long post
    and 21years is not a bad age IMO to start steroids as I am not using bad steroids like tren or deca which will shut me down nearly 100%

    please advice about the first 6 week Dbol Only cycle that will it help me look good or not
    thankyou

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    I won't say the obvious stuff like you're too young and blabla. You've already got gear so no point in lecturing.

    You mention that you are 18% body fat which is a tad high to be supplementing with AAS. Cutting generally is easier than gaining muscle thusforth can be attained naturally, so diet down for a good solid month or two and get that body fat down to at least 13-15% range and you'll be able to benefit more from your gear.

    On terms with your dbol only cycle, I would highly recommend against it as dbol will shut you down regardless of how minor it is in comparison to deca or tren . If you want to use the dbol, use it as a kickstart for the first 4 weeks of the Test E cycle which should be your first cycle.

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    Some people/kids believe 18 is not a bad age, 16 or even younger.

    It does not sound like you have a lifestyle where going to the gym is part of your normal routine. AAS are not a quick fix or something you do when you decide to go to the gym. It's not a fad type thing but a lifestyle choice.

    You will get better results with no risk by removing the aas and sticking to the diet and training.

    Its probably not what you want to hear unless you are one of the few who like hearing the truth and what is best for you rather than blowing smoke up your aas.

    Check out the diet and nutrition section and see how your training goes for the next couple of years. Proper diet and training you will see very good gains. Use aas and training is not part of your normal lifestyle you will have people laughing behind your back because you puffed up (maybe) and then lost it all.

    This is a good place to start reading and leaving.
    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

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    thankyou for your awesome replies friends
    ok then I will not start with AAS till I get enough knowledge and low body fat %

    now I have one more doubt
    as I have read when we are on low diet our natural testosterone levels gets lowered down
    should I take supplements like D-Aspartic Acid to raise it so that I may not be a hurdle in fatloss?
    or I should do a Clomid Cycle for taking care of low test while on low diet?
    or you can recommend me anything else?
    thankyou

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    I would not bother with the D-Aspartic Acid.
    D-AA can be used as a testosterone booster for infertile men, and by athletes as a temporary booster. Elevated testosterone levels only last a week to a week and a half in healthy men, with testosterone returning to normal afterward

    Dont use any kind of test boosters, they will do more harm than good. A good vitamin regiment, Fish oil Vitamin D, B12, B6, C and CoQ10 would be fine.

    Going on a healthy deit that is not a huge calorie deficit will not decrease your natural test. Loosing fat will increase your natural test levels especially with exercise.

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    Sorry double post
    Last edited by Rocky0019; 01-05-2015 at 09:08 AM.

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    thats also good...
    please dont mind I am asking too much questions :P
    actually I was searching about pro hormones but I dont find anything informative about them
    at this age can I take pro hormones?
    and please refer me to some website which is informative on this
    thankyou

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky0019 View Post
    thats also good...
    please dont mind I am asking too much questions :P
    actually I was searching about pro hormones but I dont find anything informative about them
    at this age can I take pro hormones?
    and please refer me to some website which is informative on this
    thankyou
    As of the 1st of the year pro hormones are illegal. Obama signed a bill a few weeks ago making them illegal to sell, buy or have. In one aspect it's just another government overreach but at the same time pro hormones do more harm than good, they are dangerous.

    Prohormones - Steroid .com

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    I got it friend...
    the main reason why high bf% people are asked not to take steroids is the problem of aromatization isnt it
    if he takes non aromatizing steroids like winstrol , anavar ..is that okay?
    I am not talking about myself just curious to know :P

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    Yes that is part of the reason but also you just wont get nearly as results out of your gear, waste of money. It's like putting high octane racing fuel into a stock Toyota corolla. What will you gain? Maybe burnt valves but thats it. Putting it into a modified engine for racing and it makes a big difference. Your body is not much different. Get it into prime condition before using aas and you get a lot more bang for your buck.

    This will answer a lot of your questions.
    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

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    You are too young pal; to develop a nice body you have to work out for a long time not just a few months , I would reconsider trying to get good result with your actual natural test instead of using all the gear try starting with test only. good luck
    Last edited by Lovemiami; 01-05-2015 at 10:04 AM. Reason: missed spell

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