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    seenra is offline New Member
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    Tired, exhausted, out of breath on test prop? (first cycle)

    Just started my test prop cycle (70mg ED, contemplating doing 140 mg EOD due to pip) 4 days ago. I take Arimidex at .5mg EOD as well (no itchy nips/sensitivity or anything like that). First day I injected I felt great (placebo maybe?). After 5 hours of injecting, I had a great workout. However, every day after I've just been feeling tired to the point where I couldn't go to the gym as I felt like passing out after work. Today I had the energy to go to the gym, but my chest felt tight as ****, I was out of breath, sweating, and doing light weight because I felt really out of it and everything felt heavier than it should've been. Breathing has increased, heart rate is up from 60-70 to 90-100, can't really tell if I'm hungry or if I can eat sometimes and I'm struggling to hit 2k calories whereas normally I could down 2800~ a day easily off-cycle. Have a bit of a light-headed feeling, but joints feel fine.

    I'm not really sure if this is test flu, something to do with estrogen, normal for starting a test prop cycle, or something else. I get at least 7 hours of sleep a day, and I eat clean. Gonna get bloodwork tomorrow or the day after just to be safe. If anyone knows why this is happening, I'd appreciate the advice.


    UPDATE:

    Thanks for the advice guys.

    So my mood improved after staying away from Adex an extra day, but my nipples felt a little sensitive, so I decided to take just .25 mg. Nearly immediately I felt exhausted/tired and just had my previous symptoms again. This was at like 5 pm, was exhausted from the Adex that I passed out around midnight. When I woke up, it was 4 am and I had tons of energy, however, my nips had some pain and sensitivity, so I'm not really sure what to do right now. I ended up taking another .25 mg of Adex (basically did .25 mg ED instead of .5 mg EOD). Should I take some nolvadex since painful nips is an identifier for gyno? This is really stressful
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    Its too early to tell really. Test flu can last into the second week so I would wait a little bit before you start worrying. Also drop the AI until you feel like you need it. Some people recommend taking it from the beginning but you run the risk of crushing you estrogen before it even begins to climb (which results in what your feeling). Drop anti E wait a week and see how you feel. Then add it back in as needed.

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    It could be test flu as they say if it is caused by the prop it will.go away in a few wks. As for your AI drop that to .25 eod there was no need to jump in at .5 adex is strong stuff this is why you always start low then up it if needed.

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    Low Estrogen Side Effects:

    - Osteoporosis (weakened bones) ; (long-term low levels)
    - Poor sex drive
    - Fatigue
    - Lethargy
    - Skin quality diminishes
    - Depression
    - Poor sense of wellbeing & poor quality of life

    High Estrogen Side Effects:

    - Gynecomastia
    - Anxiety & panic attacks
    - Depression
    - Erectile dysfunction
    - Water retention
    - High blood pressure
    - Loss of balance/instability/dizziness
    - Respiratory related concerns
    - Irritability
    - Low libido
    - Insomnia
    - Prostate related issues
    - Crying like a little girl and being emotional all the time
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    Thanks for the advice guys.

    So my mood improved after staying away from Adex an extra day, but my nipples felt a little sensitive, so I decided to take just .25 mg. Nearly immediately I felt exhausted/tired and just had my previous symptoms again. This was at like 5 pm, was exhausted from the Adex that I passed out around midnight. When I woke up, it was 4 am and I had tons of energy, however, my nips have some pain and sensitivity, so I'm not really sure what to do right now. I ended up taking another .25 mg of Adex (basically did .25 mg ED instead of .5 mg EOD). This is really stressful
    Last edited by seenra; 01-14-2015 at 06:47 AM.

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    same thing happened to me. Body is rebeling against the new substance. Week 5 on trt and it diminished. When I started my cycle it hit me the first 2 weeks then gone..hasnt returned.

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    So i think i should run nolva since gyno symptoms are showing up...what dosage and how long should i use the nolva for? or am I stopping injections of test prop and going straight into PCT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicagotarsier View Post
    same thing happened to me. Body is rebeling against the new substance. Week 5 on trt and it diminished. When I started my cycle it hit me the first 2 weeks then gone..hasnt returned.
    How did you combat the test flu?

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