what difference does it make if u reach your natural limit with gear or not

[SOON2BESOME1]

everyone is saying to reach your natural limit first before trying gear. if you have been lifting for 1 year 6 months and have made great gains / know what you are doing why should you keep lifting naturally until you can no longer make gains when you can reach that point with gear much faster?

[fightnews]

What difference does it make if you buy a fancy dinner in a restaurant or learn how to prepare a fancy dinner on your own?

[SOON2BESOME1]

is it true that arnold did his first cycle at 15? btw nice reply fightnews

[Buster Brown]

Whatever you reach without gear will most likely stick better.

[bass]

it makes a huge difference. if you hinder your natural potential that's where you're going to stay at for the rest of your life. this is why we say don't use steroids until you reach you max potential, so when you do PCT you'll always go back to you max natural levels.

[SOON2BESOME1]

so when you stop cycling you go back to the mass you had when you were natty? i dont get it ..

[Buster Brown]

so when you stop cycling you go back to the mass you had when you were natty? i dont get it ..

You def lose muscle post cycle....how much do you lose? That depends on how successful your pct/ hpta restart goes, nutrition, training and oh yes.....the most important: your genetics.

[bass]

so when you stop cycling you go back to the mass you had when you were natty? i dont get it ..

I'm talking about hormones not muscles. forget the muscle gain if you hinder your natural hormone level, if you do muscles will melt among other things.

[fightnews]

I'm talking about hormones not muscles. forget the muscle gain if you hinder your natural hormone level, if you do muscles will melt among other things.

You need to learn how to build muscle on your own before juicing otherwise you'll be nothing without the juice. It takes time to learn your body and its different for everyone.