Crashed - Sex Drive nil - PCT and 9 months later

**MrThingy** · 02-08-2015, 01:21 PM

Re: Crashed - Sex Drive nil - PCT and 9 months later

Hi all,

OK I really need advice...and yes, I should have done more research early days but I'll go into the reasons why not later...

I'm in a bad way. Seriously.

Can't get a stiffy at all. Sex drive nil.

Over several years I was doing D'bol for 6 weeks at a time. No PCT. Yes I'm an idiot. The reason was because I was the young naive lad at the gym and trusted the guy who I got it off. He didn't even mention PCT.

When my wood started resembling a warm cheese string, I naturally got suspicious and did some research.

OK so for my last course I did this:

One Rip x 3 x1ml a week M-W-F
Boldenone x2 x1ml p/w Tues-Thur
Tren x 3 1xml p/w Tues/Thurs
Clen 20mg am and 20mg pm every day
Test Cyp - 1mil x1 per week Tuesday
HGH Somatropin 2iu Am and 2iu PM

My PCT from this 6 week cycle was:

HCG 1500ius every 3 days for 2 weeks
Clomid 50mg e/d for 1month

After this I still couldn't get it up.

Its now 9 months since, and I have recently done a 2m course of Clomid to try and balance things out, no joy.

I'm 34 yrs old
107Kg
About 15% bf

I want to do another course but need advice on how to bring my manhood back into play?!

Its killing me and my Mrs is getting very upset.

Please help.

Thingy

**< <Samson> >** · 02-08-2015, 01:24 PM

Get a complete blood panel

**MrThingy** · 02-08-2015, 01:30 PM

Have done, Said my test is in range? I have an undescended left Test, I crash pretty hard. I have tried tribulus etc but the doctor said my lh and the rest are in range...somethings not right...

**Mr.BB** · 02-08-2015, 02:19 PM

We need your full bw to be able to help.

What was your lh, fs, e2, prolactin, etc?

**AussieMachine** · 02-08-2015, 02:32 PM

Sex drive and errection issues can be caused by numerous things mate. If I was you and was going to do another cycle, I would just run a test Enanthate cycle in the range of 500-750mg/week and leave it at that.

Then run a solid PCT

**clarky.** · 02-08-2015, 02:35 PM

Blood work you need (at minimum):

1. Testosterone , Total
2. Testosterone, Free
3. Sensitive E2 Assay (Not basic estradiol, that's for women)
4. CBC (Compete blood count)
5. CMP (Comprehensive metabolic panel)
6. Lipid Profile (post cycle is fine)
7. LH and FSH (pre-cycle and post PCT)

Copied from Aust ^^ this is for before cycle and on and after but it would help you out.
And do not use hcg in pct you really need a good bit of blood work done here as this is going to be a guessing game untill you have it.

**MrThingy** · 02-08-2015, 02:48 PM

OK lads, I will get in touch with my Dr. and get it all checked out. Should take about two weeks.

**MrThingy** · 02-08-2015, 02:51 PM

Ausie Machine, What PCT would you say? Nolva and Clomid?

**NACH3** · 02-08-2015, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by clarky.

Blood work you need (at minimum):

1. Testosterone , Total
2. Testosterone, Free
3. Sensitive E2 Assay (Not basic estradiol, that's for women)
4. CBC (Compete blood count)
5. CMP (Comprehensive metabolic panel)
6. Lipid Profile (post cycle is fine)
7. LH and FSH (pre-cycle and post PCT)

Copied from Aust ^^ this is for before cycle and on and after but it would help you out.
And do not use hcg in pct you really need a good bit of blood work done here as this is going to be a guessing game untill you have it.

All these tests are under "Hormone Panel for Males" at pri vate m d l a b s . Com.... Online and is cheap(can't post prices or id tell you exactly how much!
CBC W/differential
CMP
LIPID PANEL
THYROID w/TSH
TOTAL TESTOSTERONE
FREE TESTOSTERONE
PSA -Prostate Specific Antogen
IGF-1
Estradiol sensitive(E2)
Add LH/FSH/& Prolactin to the Male Hormone Panel and you have all basis covered! GL!

**cucu** · 02-08-2015, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by NACH3

All these tests are under "Hormone Panel for Males" at pri vate m d l a b s . Com.... Online and is cheap(can't post prices or id tell you exactly how much!
CBC W/differential
CMP
LIPID PANEL
THYROID w/TSH
TOTAL TESTOSTERONE
FREE TESTOSTERONE
PSA -Prostate Specific Antogen
IGF-1
Estradiol sensitive(E2)
Add LH/FSH/& Prolactin to the Male Hormone Panel and you have all basis covered! GL!

I don't think you need the blood panel, you can go for biochemics only. IGF is not essential atm, but the thyroid hormones was a good call. Add fasted glucose and morning cortisol and you wouldn't be lacking much.

Erectile Dysfunction is a disease that has numerous causes other than hormonal instability. In fact, gonadal hormone deficiency accounts only for a small fraction of ED cases.
Additionally, your normal values for hormones (assuming they are normal) does not point to the hormone's direction, to say the least.. Lots of people that don't use AAS got it, you might have gotten it nevertheless.
Typical causes include cardiovascular diseases such as elevated BP and dyslipidaemia, prostate conditions, diabetes, and of course, mood disorders or plain old simple stress.

I would recommend seeing an urologist, especially with within-range hormonal values. Is it a true ED? I mean you lost night erections and mornings ones too, and libido is intact? Are you stressed/anxious atm? Have you tried cialis?

**AussieMachine** · 02-08-2015, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by MrThingy

Ausie Machine, What PCT would you say? Nolva and Clomid?

Nolva and Clomid should be fine for your PCT mate. Since I'm 37 years old, I personally find a cycle that is majority test based works best for me. Recovery is a lot easier after as well.

But certainly do what the others above have recommended and get everything checked out mate.

**powerliftmike** · 02-09-2015, 04:43 PM

The posts above cover it but I would add Tren is the ONLY thing that has given me wood problems. It is very suppressive. If you dont have wood problems after a tren cycle for a while then you are lucky.