Starting first cycle soon. Please review

**kazz** · 02-19-2015, 04:06 AM

Looks like I'll be ready to start my first proper cycle soon. Blood work done and got all the gear including: hCG , Arimidex , Clomid, Nolva & Test 400.

My question is regarding the Test 400. I have two 10mL vials that consist of a blend with 200mg of Test C and 200mg of Test E in each mL.

My thoughts were to do 200mgs x twice a week for 10 weeks. Any thoughts or suggestions?

24
5'9
165lbs

**Mr.BB** · 02-19-2015, 04:13 AM

Test 400 will give crazy pip on your virgin muscles.
Would be much better to use test e or c alone at 250mgs/ml.

**itsjayman02** · 02-19-2015, 04:46 AM

Originally Posted by kazz

Looks like I'll be ready to start my first proper cycle soon. Blood work done and got all the gear including: hCG , Arimidex , Clomid, Nolva & Test 400.

My question is regarding the Test 400. I have two 10mL vials that consist of a blend with 200mg of Test C and 200mg of Test E in each mL.

My thoughts were to do 200mgs x twice a week for 10 weeks. Any thoughts or suggestions?

24
5'9
165lbs

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**EquilibriumZ** · 02-19-2015, 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

Test 400 will give crazy pip on your virgin muscles. Would be much better to use test e or c alone at 250mgs/ml.

Ever tried it subq? Is there even pain if you do it subq?

**Mr.BB** · 02-19-2015, 05:20 AM

Originally Posted by EquilibriumZ

Ever tried it subq? Is there even pain if you do it subq?

pinning oil subq leaves bumps that last for days

**EquilibriumZ** · 02-19-2015, 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

pinning oil subq leaves bumps that last for days

Ya but then it wont have the pip from virgin muscle especially with test 400 right?

**Mr.BB** · 02-19-2015, 05:35 AM

Originally Posted by EquilibriumZ

Ya but then it wont have the pip from virgin muscle especially with test 400 right?

Well those bumps hurt, and when I tried it pinned less than 0,2ml. Dont imagine the bump a 0,5ml subq pin would do.

It becomes red too, doesnt look good lol

**EquilibriumZ** · 02-19-2015, 05:39 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

Well those bumps hurt, and when I tried it pinned less than 0,2ml. Dont imagine the bump a 0,5ml subq pin would do. It becomes red too, doesnt look good lol

Lmao ok maybe you injected too much aclose to the surface?

i still wont have the balls to try it in the muscle.. Had prop injected in my rear delt before.. Fkn couldnt do an upper workout for 5 days!!!

For now b12 in stomach 3ml is quite painless and fun

**Mr.BB** · 02-19-2015, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by EquilibriumZ

Lmao ok maybe you injected too much aclose to the surface?

i still wont have the balls to try it in the muscle.. Had prop injected in my rear delt before.. Fkn couldnt do an upper workout for 5 days!!!

For now b12 in stomach 3ml is quite painless and fun

I do b12 subq too, but its water based.

Prop is bad, 1st time I pinned prop pain last for 5 days too. It gets better eventually.

**Buster Brown** · 02-19-2015, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

I do b12 subq too, but its water based.

Prop is bad, 1st time I pinned prop pain last for 5 days too. It gets better eventually.

Why not just pin it the way it was intended to be pinned?

**Buster Brown** · 02-19-2015, 08:41 AM

You will have enough for 9 weeks. Very rarely do you get 10 cc's in a vial and you always manage to lose a little drawing and changing the pin.

**musclestack** · 02-19-2015, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by kazz

Looks like I'll be ready to start my first proper cycle soon. Blood work done and got all the gear including: hCG , Arimidex , Clomid, Nolva & Test 400.

My question is regarding the Test 400. I have two 10mL vials that consist of a blend with 200mg of Test C and 200mg of Test E in each mL.

My thoughts were to do 200mgs x twice a week for 10 weeks. Any thoughts or suggestions?

24
5'9
165lbs

What's your body fat % estimate? I don't like to be the guy who always says "You're not ready to cycle", but I graduated from high school with your exact stats (barring age, of course), and 14% body fat. That's a small build, and I was nowhere near ready to cycle with those stats. If you're around 14%bf, I would suggest you put on another 20+ pounds before considering AAS. Visit the diet and workout forums.

**kazz** · 02-19-2015, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by musclestack

What's your body fat % estimate? I don't like to be the guy who always says "You're not ready to cycle", but I graduated from high school with your exact stats (barring age, of course), and 14% body fat. That's a small build, and I was nowhere near ready to cycle with those stats. If you're around 14%bf, I would suggest you put on another 20+ pounds before considering AAS. Visit the diet and workout forums.

10% bf. I was 118lbs out of high school so I've definitely put on some weight since then.

**kazz** · 02-19-2015, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by itsjayman02

Read this!!

I definitely have. Couldn't find Test E. Test 400 is what I'm left with. What your thoughts on me moving forward with this cycle?

**kazz** · 02-19-2015, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

Test 400 will give crazy pip on your virgin muscles.
Would be much better to use test e or c alone at 250mgs/ml.

Didnt have access to Test E for now. :/ Think I'm okay to move forward with this cycle? If so, what should I know or do to prepare myself?

Was going to pin IM of course.

**kazz** · 02-19-2015, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by Buster Brown

You will have enough for 9 weeks. Very rarely do you get 10 cc's in a vial and you always manage to lose a little drawing and changing the pin.

I have 2 10cc vials so I won't run out for one cycle. What do you recommend the cycle length should be in terms of weeks?

**zempey** · 02-19-2015, 03:51 PM

The pip all depends on you and the gear, I am doing 1cc 200mg prop eod with zero pip, I was doing t300 with zero pip. Prop doesn't have to hurt, I have used two different brands this cycle with no pip.

Running 2 shots a week is a fairly big dose for a newb, maybe do .75ml twice a week or 1 ml every 4 or 5 days until you run out.

**kazz** · 02-19-2015, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by zempey

Running 2 shots a week is a fairly big dose for a newb, maybe do .75ml twice a week or 1 ml every 4 or 5 days until you run out.

Dosage is 400mg/ml. Was planning on doing 0.5ml twice a week.

**swolehead** · 02-19-2015, 04:16 PM

just do 400 a week like u just said

**kazz** · 02-19-2015, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by swolehead

just do 400 a week like u just said

That's what I was thinking of doing. 400/week split up in 0.5cc shot twice a week. Or do you think a 1cc shot once a week is better?

**Wizwell** · 02-19-2015, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by swolehead

just do 400 a week like u just said

Agree with ^^^ 200 mg ( 1/2 ml. ) twice per week should be fine. You have more than enough. Take your Arimidex and HCG as your supposed to. Monitor your BP, drink lots of water, eat lots and clean. You'll do well.

**zempey** · 02-19-2015, 05:18 PM

I must have miss read, thought you were planning two ml a week, I agree with the 400mg per week, you will get good results with that.

**Buster Brown** · 02-19-2015, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by kazz

I have 2 10cc vials so I won't run out for one cycle. What do you recommend the cycle length should be in terms of weeks?

I am merely pointing out to you that you need to be aware that you most likely don't have a solid 20 cc's and to be aware. You can just run it and see how close you get or try drawing. 90 per injection and see if you can stretch it out.