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    test, tren, deca, dbol, adrol, imsulin

    Been following the forums for years, but its one of my first posts.

    Stats:
    Height: 5'4
    Weight: 193
    Bf%: 15% ish
    Years training: 9
    Age: 25

    I've been off gear for 2 years, and I've been kicking this cycle idea around for a few months. Let me know what you think, anything to add, take away, or what kinda gains I could expect. Or tell me if I'm way off or if I would die lol. I would be looking at this cycle like 6 months from now.

    Week 1-15: Test c 750 mg/week
    Week 1-15: Tren e 600 mg/week
    Week 1-15: Deca 500 mg/week
    Week1-6: Dbol 50 mg/day
    Week 1-4: Insulin 10 iu post workout
    Week 9-15: Adrol 50 mg/day
    Week 11-15: Insulin

    So what it would look like is test, tren, and deca for 15 weeks. With a dbol/insulin kick start, and an adrol/insulin finisher. I would run low dose hcg throughout cycle so no lag for pct. Also would take proviron and caber throughout, and have arimidex on hand.

    I have already had both my gynos surgically removed and gyno is no problem anymore.

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    Oh ya, I would also have aggressive liver support

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    Do you have experience with everything you listed already?

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    Everything except the slin. I would start at 2 iu's post workout and go up to find my tolerance lvl

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    I mean, is this cycle idea really far fetched? Or would anyone actually run this?

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    Personally. I think you throwing to much crap into a cycle. You don't need all this for a decent cycle. Probs drop the deca or tren . One or other. And maybe the same for the orals

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    Ya that's what its starting to feel like. I would probably drop the deca . Mostly cus I just don't wanna shoot it EW, and I think its gonna make me way more watery

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    Dude really, can't you think of any more stuff to toss in there?
    I think that a bit to much....

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    The more I keep looking at it, the deca feels like overkill and wasted money. The orals are at moderate doses, and there is a break between. I've read about guys stacking adrol and dbol together with test and tren .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chimera44 View Post
    Been following the forums for years, but its one of my first posts.

    Stats:
    Height: 5'4
    Weight: 193
    Bf%: 15% ish
    Years training: 9
    Age: 25

    I've been off gear for 2 years, and I've been kicking this cycle idea around for a few months. Let me know what you think, anything to add, take away, or what kinda gains I could expect. Or tell me if I'm way off or if I would die lol. I would be looking at this cycle like 6 months from now.

    Week 1-15: Test c 750 mg/week
    Week 1-15: Tren e 600 mg/week
    Week 1-15: Deca 500 mg/week
    Week1-6: Dbol 50 mg/day
    Week 1-4: Insulin 10 iu post workout
    Week 9-15: Adrol 50 mg/day
    Week 11-15: Insulin

    So what it would look like is test, tren, and deca for 15 weeks. With a dbol/insulin kick start, and an adrol/insulin finisher. I would run low dose hcg throughout cycle so no lag for pct. Also would take proviron and caber throughout, and have arimidex on hand.

    I have already had both my gynos surgically removed and gyno is no problem anymore.
    Your 25 wow are you looking to open a chemist?

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    Haha ya its a little extreme. Would anyone try this without the deca ? Or am I still out of my mind?

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    Oh I think a little out ! But hey whatever floats! Def don't want to do Tren and deca together with all that other. That tren/deca/tes tiger is tough enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tectime View Post
    Oh I think a little out ! But hey whatever floats! Def don't want to do Tren and deca together with all that other. That tren/deca/tes tiger is tough enough.
    Ya, I think I was letting my imagination wander with the deca . That's why I threw in the caber to control prolactin. I've read posts about guys doing test tren and deca, but I haven't seen any logs on sides or results.

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    Results fantastic ! Sides ungodly ! Tren at 300/400 with tes....no problems great results, deca 400/600 with tes......same actually my fav. TDT like I said great results all the good of tes/deca with unbelievable grainy vieny hard rock finish of tren. Then about a month after returning to reg tes dose........oh my GOD ! No pimples on the outside like a ****ing chiseled beast. Lipids blown out, alt ast crazy, alco phos crazy. 3/4 erections for 6 months no not cool right there! Haha ! About 6 months to get my bloods back to right for me. All other issues clear up to but maybe not the same for everyone. One tough bitch TDT. Haha oh yes !

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    have fun with this one. That's intense.
    Let me know how it goes in a PM or something. I wanna run a cycle like this one day, but swapping the slin for HGH if I could find a source when I go down to Mexico.

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    Tdt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chimera44 View Post
    Been following the forums for years, but its one of my first posts.

    Stats:
    Height: 5'4
    Weight: 193
    Bf%: 15% ish
    Years training: 9
    Age: 25

    I've been off gear for 2 years, and I've been kicking this cycle idea around for a few months. Let me know what you think, anything to add, take away, or what kinda gains I could expect. Or tell me if I'm way off or if I would die lol. I would be looking at this cycle like 6 months from now.

    Week 1-15: Test c 750 mg/week
    Week 1-15: Tren e 600 mg/week
    Week 1-15: Deca 500 mg/week
    Week1-6: Dbol 50 mg/day
    Week 1-4: Insulin 10 iu post workout
    Week 9-15: Adrol 50 mg/day
    Week 11-15: Insulin

    So what it would look like is test, tren, and deca for 15 weeks. With a dbol/insulin kick start, and an adrol/insulin finisher. I would run low dose hcg throughout cycle so no lag for pct. Also would take proviron and caber throughout, and have arimidex on hand.

    I have already had both my gynos surgically removed and gyno is no problem anymore.

    Has no one even given thought to the fact the OP is in mid 20's 5 4 and 193 lbs and looking at a cycle 6 mths from now ? What about diet ? I kinda doubt the 15% BF is correct just from height and weight ? No disrespect ? You could be soild and is possible but 193 at 5 4 and 25 is a heavy weight IMHO ? ? ? ?


    Oh been taining 9 yrs means you started at 16 ! for a 16 yr old to really train and have disipline is rare and possibly IMHO the last 4 yrs have been serious training ? Not being negative just relistic ? ? ?

    Tweak diet a lot ???
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    TDT = tes/deca /tren

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    OP post pics

    5'4 15%bf 194.. You must be pure muscles

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    I'm muscular enough, not enough for cutting, but bulking idc

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    I'm not concerned with bloat and e sides. I had my gyno removed, but I would like to be comfortable with test tren , dbol , anadol, and insulin . Any advice would help. I'm very experienced on gear. Just looking for some reviews and experience, that's all

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    Run the tren -e a bit lower, bump the deca higher.

    The only reason you should be running the tren-e is to keep the fat off from the slin. If you had HGH, i'd say run that and drop the tren altogether. 350mg/week tren should provide you enough of a tren base. Bump the deca to 600 or 700

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chimera44
    I'm not concerned with bloat and e sides. I had my gyno removed, but I would like to be comfortable with test tren, dbol, anadol, and insulin. Any advice would help. I'm very experienced on gear. Just looking for some reviews and experience, that's all
    You had gyno removed ? So you want to risk it again ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR-FQ320 View Post
    You had gyno removed ? So you want to risk it again ?

    I am almost 56 and on TRT . as you will be also due to early AAS use, but you said "IDC".

    Had Full mammory Glad removal at 28 and I still to today get sore nipples when Estrogen gets to high so you are mis informed as to the need not to worry and if you also say you have been training 9 yrs , you were out at least 4 + mths with the Gyno operation and had to start from scratch on your chest if you had complete Gyno removal ? Or did you just get fat man boobs removed ?

    I never run orals and I love Tren , Cypionate and proticole is 100mg of Deca a week, 169 Cypionate, and Blast 400mg tran from time to time and HCG non stop ! I only need .25mg of Adex every 5 days .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chimera44 View Post
    I'm muscular enough, not enough for cutting, but bulking idc

    What is muscular enough ? Do you have pics ? ? ?

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    What is IDC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuzzardMarinePumper View Post
    What is muscular enough ? Do you have pics ? ? ?
    Being "muscular enough" falls under the mythological category containing unicorns, Sasquatch, and male feminists. Perhaps, OP meant to say he's large enough but his reflection is not as aesthetically pleasing as he wishes. Or he's a harder gainer then my aunt on chemo.
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    Op, the only question I have is what makes you think you need such a cycle?
    Are you a very advanced or competitive BB-er making money off the sport? If not, it's not worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MR-FQ320 View Post
    What is IDC?
    IDC = I Don't Care

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    Quote Originally Posted by davesah1 View Post
    Being "muscular enough" falls under the mythological category containing unicorns, Sasquatch, and male feminists. Perhaps, OP meant to say he's large enough but his reflection is not as aesthetically pleasing as he wishes. Or he's a harder gainer then my aunt on chemo.

    Not directed at the OP Just to funny the words you used ! ! !

    Or he's a harder gainer then my aunt on chemo.

    ROTF-LMFAO

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR-FQ320 View Post
    You had gyno removed ? So you want to risk it again ?
    My surgeon was the best in the city. He got everything. I got it from risperdal, got it removed, and started cycling. No gyno sides what so ever

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    I'm thinking about this cus I've been off for 2 years, my receptors are primed, and I wanna break 210 at least. I'm around 15% bf and those are my real stats. I do wanna go pro one day too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 212OlympiaBound View Post
    Run the tren -e a bit lower, bump the deca higher.

    The only reason you should be running the tren-e is to keep the fat off from the slin. If you had HGH, i'd say run that and drop the tren altogether. 350mg/week tren should provide you enough of a tren base. Bump the deca to 600 or 700
    Interesting thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chimera44
    Been following the forums for years, but its one of my first posts.

    Stats:
    Height: 5'4
    Weight: 193
    Bf%: 15% ish
    Years training: 9
    Age: 25

    I've been off gear for 2 years, and I've been kicking this cycle idea around for a few months. Let me know what you think, anything to add, take away, or what kinda gains I could expect. Or tell me if I'm way off or if I would die lol. I would be looking at this cycle like 6 months from now.

    Week 1-15: Test c 750 mg/week
    Week 1-15: Tren e 600 mg/week
    Week 1-15: Deca 500 mg/week
    Week1-6: Dbol 50 mg/day
    Week 1-4: Insulin 10 iu post workout
    Week 9-15: Adrol 50 mg/day
    Week 11-15: Insulin

    So what it would look like is test, tren, and deca for 15 weeks. With a dbol/insulin kick start, and an adrol/insulin finisher. I would run low dose hcg throughout cycle so no lag for pct. Also would take proviron and caber throughout, and have arimidex on hand.

    I have already had both my gynos surgically removed and gyno is no problem anymore.
    I would stick with either the tren or the deca... Two 19 nor's are not needed together unless you've done it before and it happened to work like no other cycle... Everyone has different stacks that work best and I don't know your cycle experience but in my experience and opinion one or the other and the rest of the cycle is fine... Be careful with the slin.. I've had some close encounters years ago when I use to use it... Lower the better trust me with that.. And be sure to always check your glucose level often.. It's best to already have a profession handling your diet once your to the level needed for slin use

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuzzardMarinePumper View Post

    I am almost 56 and on TRT . as you will be also due to early AAS use, but you said "IDC".

    Had Full mammory Glad removal at 28 and I still to today get sore nipples when Estrogen gets to high so you are mis informed as to the need not to worry and if you also say you have been training 9 yrs , you were out at least 4 + mths with the Gyno operation and had to start from scratch on your chest if you had complete Gyno removal ? Or did you just get fat man boobs removed ?

    I never run orals and I love Tren , Cypionate and proticole is 100mg of Deca a week, 169 Cypionate, and Blast 400mg tran from time to time and HCG non stop ! I only need .25mg of Adex every 5 days .

    I had bilateral gyno removal with no lipo of the right pec. I was out a week on chest, and I got back at it. No man boobs, none of that. My real stats are 5'4, 193 lbs, and around 15% bf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by human project View Post
    I would stick with either the tren or the deca... Two 19 nor's are not needed together unless you've done it before and it happened to work like no other cycle... Everyone has different stacks that work best and I don't know your cycle experience but in my experience and opinion one or the other and the rest of the cycle is fine... Be careful with the slin.. I've had some close encounters years ago when I use to use it... Lower the better trust me with that.. And be sure to always check your glucose level often.. It's best to already have a profession handling your diet once your to the level needed for slin use
    Thanks, good advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chimera44
    The more I keep looking at it, the deca feels like overkill and wasted money. The orals are at moderate doses, and there is a break between. I've read about guys stacking adrol and dbol together with test and tren.
    I had a stack where I was proving you can cut with anadrol and d bol... I'm almost positive it's on here somewhere... Taking anadrol and d Bol together is very very common for people in strongman.... That's where I started cycling and that cycle gives me the best strength gains hands down and probably best overall gains... Only problem is any time I use either I always loose a ton of muscle coming off and now a days I worry too much about my organs so I don't use any pills anymore.. Actually I haven't used any anabolics in a very long time but that's a different story... I've been paying attention to posts like this tho bc I'm trying to plan my next cycle in about 6mos or so as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chimera44
    Haha ya its a little extreme. Would anyone try this without the deca? Or am I still out of my mind?
    Shit send me the cycle... I'll be the test rat for sure... I'll post a log, pics, whatever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chimera44

    Ya, I think I was letting my imagination wander with the deca. That's why I threw in the caber to control prolactin. I've read posts about guys doing test tren and deca, but I haven't seen any logs on sides or results.
    When I use to do strongman competitions I would always use at least a small amount of deca even when on tren but I'm talking just a couple hundred mg's and that was just to protect my joints and nothing more... Even used small amounts when bridging..

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    Quote Originally Posted by davesah1
    have fun with this one. That's intense.
    Let me know how it goes in a PM or something. I wanna run a cycle like this one day, but swapping the slin for HGH if I could find a source when I go down to Mexico.
    Gh is a waste of time without using slin in my opinion...

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