Hgh or igf between aas cycles

**fitguy** · 04-18-2015, 02:52 AM

Hi guys i was wondering if anyone uses gh or igf-1 to maintain muscle mass between cycles or even gain little more ,which is better for such to use gh or igf-1?? Thanks

**fitguy** · 04-18-2015, 01:37 PM

Bump

**GingerbeardJ** · 04-18-2015, 01:49 PM

I would do both personally but definitely wanna see what some vets have to say about this!

**NACH3** · 04-18-2015, 01:50 PM

Really?! C-mon They don't even compare!

Now peps are fine.... But both need to be run for very long periods(unless your ramping and taking 10iu ed for a cycle then continue at say 2iu for months) or you can take it at low doses 2iu ed for yrs(I'd prefer this unless I could do both

Peps are sufficient when ran for 9-12 months(IPA, mod GRF 1, GHRP 2-6(either depending on goals) is a good stack

**fitguy** · 04-18-2015, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by NACH3

Really?! C-mon They don't even compare!

Now peps are fine.... But both need to be run for very long periods(unless your ramping and taking 10iu ed for a cycle then continue at say 2iu for months) or you can take it at low doses 2iu ed for yrs(I'd prefer this unless I could do both

Peps are sufficient when ran for 9-12 months(IPA, mod GRF 1, GHRP 2-6(either depending on goals) is a good stack

So what would you do gh or igf and what is a good starting protocol to use in pct or after?

PT · 04-18-2015, 03:08 PM

Since most igf is bunk I will say hgh. Even if they were both legit I would choose hgh.

**NACH3** · 04-18-2015, 03:15 PM

If I could get real GH that all the way no PCT required just continue on w/the same dose!bfar too many fakes if you don't have a very very trusted source...

If running peps I would go w/semorelin or Ipamorelin(for 9-12 months at least very expensive either way) and stack it w/mod grf1 CJC?! And a GHRH 2 or 6 - also run it for long periods(no pct required but you'll know by pinning when your rats had enough)

**fitguy** · 04-18-2015, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by NACH3

If I could get real GH that all the way no PCT required just continue on w/the same dose!bfar too many fakes if you don't have a very very trusted source...

If running peps I would go w/semorelin or Ipamorelin(for 9-12 months at least very expensive either way) and stack it w/mod grf1 CJC?! And a GHRH 2 or 6 - also run it for long periods(no pct required but you'll know by pinning when your rats had enough)

So what is a good starting dose to run gh for to maintain gains and even gain little more and when to start using gh in pct or after?

PT · 04-18-2015, 04:44 PM

Pharm grade- 4ius a day split into 2 injections

**NACH3** · 04-18-2015, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by PT

Pharm grade- 4ius a day split into 2 injections

If I could I'd run it at 2-4iu ed forever

**fitguy** · 04-18-2015, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by NACH3

If I could I'd run it at 2-4iu ed forever

Can i expect mass gains from such a dose? From what i have read people run it 5 days a week or such

PT · 04-18-2015, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by NACH3

If I could I'd run it at 2-4iu ed forever

I'm hoping to. I just keep stocking up. I have generics I toss in 2 days a week then run my sero's and the little bit of nutropin I have the rest of the time

**NACH3** · 04-18-2015, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by fitguy

Can i expect mass gains from such a dose? From what i have read people run it 5 days a week or such

Can you actually get pharma GH(RX)?? I doubt it unless your on TRT as well or have a deficiency of some sort(or joint problems, healing problems etc...

Try researching it and see for yourself... If it's something you feel you can get(you have read the sticky regarding China and fakes?! Ukrainian Jins/etc

**fitguy** · 04-18-2015, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by NACH3

Can you actually get pharma GH(RX)?? I doubt it unless your on TRT as well or have a deficiency of some sort(or joint problems, healing problems etc...

Try researching it and see for yourself... If it's something you feel you can get(you have read the sticky regarding China and fakes?! Ukrainian Jins/etc

Will try to get pharma grade gh but the dose will determine how much will i get and for how long will be able to run

**Ashop** · 04-18-2015, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by fitguy

Hi guys i was wondering if anyone uses gh or igf-1 to maintain muscle mass between cycles or even gain little more ,which is better for such to use gh or igf-1?? Thanks

You certainly could. I would pick HGH (PHARM GRADE ONLY) if I had a choice.

**lovbyts** · 04-19-2015, 12:57 AM

The only reason people run it 5x a week, 2 days off is $$$$
If you can afford to run it 7 cays a week then go for it.

Also as said, only if you can get Pharmacy brand but if you are buying it via online 99% of the Pharmacy brand you will be paying for is cloned/fake.

Personally I wont even bother wasting my time anymore looking online. Everyone will tell you they know someone or they are 100% sure what they have is legit. Well if they didnt get it from a Pharmacy or straight from someone who has an RX then I wouldn't trust it but thats just my .02. I have wasted to much in the past trying generics and such and work to hard for my money to waste it like that anymore.

**GirlyGymRat** · 04-19-2015, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

The only reason people run it 5x a week, 2 days off is $$$$ If you can afford to run it 7 cays a week then go for it. Also as said, only if you can get Pharmacy brand but if you are buying it via online 99% of the Pharmacy brand you will be paying for is cloned/fake. Personally I wont even bother wasting my time anymore looking online. Everyone will tell you they know someone or they are 100% sure what they have is legit. Well if they didnt get it from a Pharmacy or straight from someone who has an RX then I wouldn't trust it but thats just my .02. I have wasted to much in the past trying generics and such and work to hard for my money to waste it like that anymore.

I

hgh. Had a mix of "pharm" grade prob faked and Chinese. I ran for 9 mo ED and loved the results. It leaned me out in my stubborn places. I have been trying to get my hands on this for one more 9mo cycle so that I can really get down to bf% I would like to maintain.

I know that some say don't waste your $ on Chinese. I had great results on blue tops. Since my disposable income can absorb a nine mo cycle....its really a personal choice. I liked that I didn't get the sides associated with AAS. For a female, there's not much out there that offers lean body mass/fat loss without virilization.

**NACH3** · 04-19-2015, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat

I

hgh. Had a mix of "pharm" grade prob faked and Chinese. I ran for 9 mo ED and loved the results. It leaned me out in my stubborn places. I have been trying to get my hands on this for one more 9mo cycle so that I can really get down to bf% I would like to maintain.

I know that some say don't waste your $ on Chinese. I had great results on blue tops. Since my disposable income can absorb a nine mo cycle....its really a personal choice. I liked that I didn't get the sides associated with AAS. For a female, there's not much out there that offers lean body mass/fat loss without virilization.

It must be the best option for a female!!! Like you said no virilization issues, can run it as long as you'd like

I'm tryin to get my hands on some(RX) as well... The clinics am have offered it up but it's just too damn expensive to run it for a yr+ at 2iu a day... I'd much rather do 4iu daily forever LOL! Looking into some other places as well....

Lots/most raws and such do still come from China... But itd be wise if you could totally cut out the middle man so you know who's making it and where exactly it's coming from!

I'd say you have much more experience in this than me... But looking to change all that(regarding GH)

**bignath4607** · 04-19-2015, 01:13 PM

Not all the gh that comes from china is fake the stuff used around my way gets a good press but they might be lucky

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**KinMan** · 04-19-2015, 11:50 PM

Pharm grade hgh....hope you have a doc writing it for you under good insurance. Stuff ain't cheap to run 2-4iu ed forever. Would be awesome, though.

**lovbyts** · 04-20-2015, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by bignath4607

Not all the gh that comes from china is fake the stuff used around my way gets a good press but they might be lucky

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Yeah I'm sure it does get good press, mostly because no one likes to admit they bought bunk HGH or wasted their money. How come 99% of it is fake but you only hear .01% admit to ever using fake? EGO!!!

You still dont believe me. How come Viagra and Cialis are the two biggested RX meds but no one ever admits to ED?

Originally Posted by KinMan

Pharm grade hgh....hope you have a doc writing it for you under good insurance. Stuff ain't cheap to run 2-4iu ed forever. Would be awesome, though.

Trust fund baby comes to mind. $$$$

**bignath4607** · 04-20-2015, 01:01 AM

Lovbyts yesi do agree with your comment imean the users have reported that they are getting benefits/sides from this stuff wether theyre making it up or not i do not know as i dont know what their body is feeling what i do know its who it comes from and i dont think he would take fake off anyone this is just my opinion of course but theres some healthy looking gh guts round my way lol

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