Nipples are OOZING!!

**quinnbaylor** · 05-07-2015, 01:43 PM

Not terribly, but still.

I'm on week 5 of my cycle:

Text Cyp 500mg/Wk
Hgh 3ius/ED
Liquidex .25mg/ED

I notices that when I squeeze my nipples, a clear fluid discharges. Not a ton, but enough to make me post on here. I'm assuming it's elevated levels of prolactin. Should I get some Prami? Any advice or experience would be greatly appreciated.

Thx!

**clarky.** · 05-07-2015, 02:00 PM

Mid cycle bloods will be due in a few wks anyway so i would pull them the now just to see what's going on and stop squeezing your nips.

Testosterone , Total
Testosterone, Free
Sensitive E2 Assay
CBC
Prolactin

**NACH3** · 05-07-2015, 02:01 PM

Your lactating... Did you pull pre cycle bloods to see if your prolactin was already elevated prior to the cycle?

Your not running a 19nor so I'm wondering if this wasn't an underlying issue from the start...

**jimmyinkedup** · 05-07-2015, 02:25 PM

Like clarky said stop playing with your nips. As silly as it sounds that is very important. Stimulation will increase lactation. Also as he said BW is important.
This is one of those cases where a 19nor is not involved yet lactation is taking place. Patrick Arnold put a theory out there that oxytocin, not prolactin could be the cause of lactation. It seem with aas use there is an increase in oxytocin levels and oxytocin plays a role in lactation just as prolactin does.
Anyway if it were me i'd get the blood work etc but I would also start on some prami. You will want to have blood work but still I would want to stop the lactation and increasing dopamine thus lowering prolactin will probably do this.
So:
1- Have blood drawn
2- start prami after you have blood taken (so it doesnt impact bw results)

**quinnbaylor** · 05-07-2015, 04:15 PM

Thx!! Will get BW tomorrow. Prami works with this cycle, correct?

**NACH3** · 05-07-2015, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup

Like clarky said stop playing with your nips. As silly as it sounds that is very important. Stimulation will increase lactation. Also as he said BW is important.
This is one of those cases where a 19nor is not involved yet lactation is taking place. Patrick Arnold put a theory out there that oxytocin, not prolactin could be the cause of lactation. It seem with aas use there is an increase in oxytocin levels and oxytocin plays a role in lactation just as prolactin does.
Anyway if it were me i'd get the blood work etc but I would also start on some prami. You will want to have blood work but still I would want to stop the lactation and increasing dopamine thus lowering prolactin will probably do this.
So:
1- Have blood drawn
2- start prami after you have blood taken (so it doesnt impact bw results)

Didnt even think of oxytocin, but it makes a lot of sense! I've heard of this b4 just never encountered someone w/it... but it's very powerful hormone which is elevated due to sex, birth, affection(hugging/kissing) etc and is found in the manmorial glands(hence the lactation) ?!
I found this that explains what oxytocin is...

What is Oxytocin?

Oxytocin is a powerful hormone. When we hug or kiss a loved one, oxytocin levels drive up. It also acts as a neurotransmitter in the brain. In fact, the hormone plays a huge role in pair bonding. Prairie voles, one of nature's most monogamous species, produce oxytocin in spades. This hormone is also greatly stimulated during sex, birth, breast feeding—the list goes on.

**austinite** · 05-07-2015, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup

like clarky said stop playing with your nips. As silly as it sounds that is very important. Stimulation will increase lactation. Also as he said bw is important.
This is one of those cases where a 19nor is not involved yet lactation is taking place. Patrick arnold put a theory out there that oxytocin, not prolactin could be the cause of lactation. It seem with aas use there is an increase in oxytocin levels and oxytocin plays a role in lactation just as prolactin does.
Anyway if it were me i'd get the blood work etc but i would also start on some prami. You will want to have blood work but still i would want to stop the lactation and increasing dopamine thus lowering prolactin will probably do this.
So:
1- have blood drawn
2- start prami after you have blood taken (so it doesnt impact bw results)

x2...

***system admin*** · 05-07-2015, 07:10 PM

I have to say, this thread was very interesting to me! At times, my nipples will start to bother me and being OCD (go figure) I can not stop touching them because its REALLY bothering me. I have noticed that once I start stimulating my nipples, they swelling gets bigger. This is what I LOVE about this forum... thanks for the awesome information guys! Hard to believe I did not hear that before!

Bc

***system admin*** · 05-07-2015, 07:11 PM

BTW... I have never "lactated" but I DO notice the swelling get more noticeable once I start messing with it. I was not sure if it was in my mind because I was OCD'ing or if it were really getting larger. Again... nice info

**Ashop** · 05-07-2015, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by NACH3

Your lactating... Did you pull pre cycle bloods to see if your prolactin was already elevated prior to the cycle?

Your not running a 19nor so I'm wondering if this wasn't an underlying issue from the start...

Very odd as you mention since the compounds he's using wont typically cause lactating.
Get some blood work done as see whats causing it,,,then treat it.

**against_grain** · 05-08-2015, 12:45 PM

I can comment on this, I experienced the same thing, lactation without any use of 19-NOR compounds. I was running only Test prop and masteron with 1MG a-dex EOD at the time and I had this small amount of clear discharge on squeezing.

Everyone says "stop squeezing" but I felt like it should not be happening either way.

I had first tried increasing my AI dosage, with little effect. I eventually began Cabergoline and this resolved the symptoms completely.

good luck, it did resolve completely for me.

**Sfla80** · 05-08-2015, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by against_grain

I can comment on this, I experienced the same thing, lactation without any use of 19-NOR compounds. I was running only Test prop and masteron with 1MG a-dex EOD at the time and I had this small amount of clear discharge on squeezing.

Everyone says "stop squeezing" but I felt like it should not be happening either way.

I had first tried increasing my AI dosage, with little effect. I eventually began Cabergoline and this resolved the symptoms completely.

good luck, it did resolve completely for me.

1mg adex and then u tried to increase it too???

Did u ever get blood work to actually find the problem?

**against_grain** · 05-12-2015, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by Sfla80

1mg adex and then u tried to increase it too???

Did u ever get blood work to actually find the problem?

Bloodwork showed elevated prolactin, normal estrogen at that time yes.

I was originally convinced that my estrogen must be elevated, so I was running higher dose of AI.

Everything I had read indicated that test/masteron would not cause prolactin elevation and therefore lactation, but as above it seems that there is another pathway that causes this.

I can say that Caber resolved the symptoms, not immediately but I would report after 2 weeks the symptom of inflammation and clear discharge resolved.

**against_grain** · 05-12-2015, 02:41 PM

My conclusion is, that there is an alternate pathway that can cause elevated prolactin when using only test, or test and NON-19 compounds- even when estrogen is completely in check.

This is what I experienced exactly, firsthand. I will always have Caber on hand during use, with anything.

Traditional views usually state that only 19-Nor compounds can cause prolactin to be elevated, I believe there is another pathway causing elevated prolactin- perhaps oxytocin related as NACH3 suggested.

**bullshark99** · 05-12-2015, 03:23 PM

Get BW done, friend of mine started "oozing" at the end of the day it was testicular cancer. Not trying to be a prick, just saying... Those were his symptoms, that was the result.

**jstone** · 05-12-2015, 06:22 PM

I think that one problem can be with ugls brewing whatever they receive. There told its masteron , but in reality it is test, and npp. There could be another reason for this like others have proposed, but I think most likely it is ugls getting mixed powder.

There is a harm reduction program that used to test AAS, and then post what was actually in the oil. They quit testing AAS in 2014, but you can look at the tests they did. Often times the vials didn contain what they said they did. I will post the name of the site if given the ok, but im not sure on the rules. The site only test recreational drugs now so im not sure if posting it is appropriate, but it is eye opening to see what is in some compounds.