Require assistance, do I go on or stop?

[schelde]

I will try and this post simple and clean!

My first cycle was at the age of 19, great gains, great acne scars. Decided to wait untill I was older to try again.

3 years later I have been stuck for a year or so. I am gaining extremly little to none strenght yet I have gained 14 kilos this last year. Unable to progress more.

Wants to try a another beginner cycle, 500test e 12-14 weeks, arimidex , clomid, nolva on hand. I want to start low as I want to gain experience with AAS before I use more compounds/dosages.


110kg
1.88cm
Not 100% sure of my bodyfat, I would guess around 14-16, over what I want to be
Training for 5 years
Very serious lifter, blessed enough to have residential income so I focus 95% of my time on lifting, eating, mental training.

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The Actual question:

I injected my first pin today, but second thoughts. No second thoughts about cycling.

I should have considered more if I wanted to cut before i cycled.

I am already 110kg ( 242LBS ) and in the end I want to be big, however would it be smarter for me, long term to cut down to 10-12ish fat before I cycled?

Is it possible to stop, do an aggresive cut for 4-5 weeks then start the cycle again as I have only injected once?

Or am I better off just continuing? And cut later on? I am slightly uncomfortable being 15ish fat.

Will any damage have been done if I stop after 1 pin, without PCT. Cut for 4-5 weeks and jump back on when I am at a ok fat level?


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TLR
Injected first pin of 250test E, wondering if I should have cut before i cycled since I am 15%ish fat long term

Any damage done if I stop, do an aggresive cut and jump back in 4-6 weeks when I am at 10-12%

[jolter604]

And where is your hcg ? 2 X 250 iu a week is the protocol. Doses?

[NACH3]

And where is your hcg? 2 X 250 iu a week is the protocol. Doses?

^^ this, and you can just stop now if it's only been 1pin

Yes it's called priming b4 a cycle - the lower the bf the better - it produces a more anabolic nature for your body to grow in! Think of it like a sponge(if all soaked up w/water no room for any more) same w/muscle & fat... The lower the better results especially if your doing a clean bulk(which is what I'd suggest) dirty bulks just add more fat to shed after, then you may be able to put on mass and drop bf! That's ideal but diet does have to be on point....

[Joco71]

Dude your only 21 yrs old. You should stay away from the juice until your body and endo is mature. You are taking the risk of screwing your self up for life running AAS at your age. I'm certain that is not what you wanted to hear but it is the truth. The risk at your age far out ways any reward. Your natural test levels are already high. Not only that if you are 242lbs at 14-16% body fat your already a beast. Something for you to think on, its your life but the guys on this forum will tell you pretty much the same thing. Good Luck!

[NACH3]

Dude your only 21 yrs old. You should stay away from the juice until your body and endo is mature. You are taking the risk of screwing your self up for life running AAS at your age. I'm certain that is not what you wanted to hear but it is the truth. The risk at your age far out ways any reward. Your natural test levels are already high. Not only that if you are 242lbs at 14-16% body fat your already a beast. Something for you to think on, its your life but the guys on this forum will tell you pretty much the same thing. Good Luck!

Nice catch - I should have looked - I kinda felt his age in his post now I think of it....

Your HPTA doesn't mature til 25 your risking permanent damage for vanity? Listen up just b/c you ran one at 19 consider yourself lucky - but I bet you didn't get BW either to see IF you actually recovered!!!

The young and Steroids

[schelde]

Thank you for your reply. I am 22, not thats its that big of a difference.

About the HCG . Forgot to add it in the post ^^ its late where I live. After reading alot upon it the I was originally wanting to do 1000once a week, however decided on 250 twice a week.

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Yes, when I realised I was to young and did not continue to cycle when I was 19. 25 was my original plan to continue if i ever were to continue.

However after being completly stuck with the exact same weight on my bench for 1 entire year, not making a single progress yet I have gained 10 kilos this year I feel my body has reached its peak and unable to progress further naturally.

I have tried most and I would consider myself a very serious lifter and I currently bench 310x10 on incline bench, wich was exactly the same as I did 360 days ago. Deadlift and squats are almost completly stuck two, some very very small progress there. Gaining weight on a weekly basis yet stuck on weights.

So thereofre I wanted to do another cycle, i dont seem to have much more in me naturally.

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And as you said I am safe to stop as its been 1 pin? Do you reckon it will take long to recover without the aid of anything else? Should I be worried about anything? Other than my impulsive decision making

[Buster Brown]

I am not sure a 4-6 week prime is going to be enough. At 242 you are a big boy but the fact that you are considering dropping some bf leads me to think that your bf is on the high side. You could simply stop and do a proper prime and go from there. You have already gotten an earful concerning your age and the guys are right.....you are going to do what you are going to do however it would be in your best interest to hold off a bit longer.

[bigdil511]

Your 240lbs and only 15-18% body fat? Id say you've got everything going for u and not much to conplain about. Bench is 310x10? And ur complaining dude your way too young to ruin your body for life.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Your 240lbs and only 15-18% body fat? Id say you've got everything going for u and not much to conplain about. Bench is 310x10? And ur complaining dude your way too young to ruin your body for life.

That's Incline bench by the way.
Don't cut him short.
Probably good for 350x10 flat or about a 450lb bench.
Must be nice.

[davidtheman100]

I would highly suggest going to the training and diet section, as you'll get much more helpful information that you'll be able to utilize to drop BF%. It seems like that's what you're trying to do before the cycle anyway. Hold off from cycling as long as you can at your age even if you've already cycled.. Dropping below 15% (which seems like it might be even more..) is ideal for health reasons when cycling as well..

[schelde]

I would not say I am complaining. I am proud of how far I have come and everyday I get to go to the gym and do what I love the most.

After alot of thinking I have decided that I want to stop after this first pin. It seems like the ideal thing to do. Cutting bodyfat will not be a problem at all, diet and training is as strict as it comes.

Now for continuing. I will give it more thought, you always want more in this sport and natrually I believe I will never be satisfied with what I have. I have always had the dream to be huge and strong. But then again health is the only thing you have and the longer I wait the better it is.