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    Low free testosterone and high total testosterone while on gear

    So I had blood work done and my doc says my total testosterone is high as in way over 1500 but my free testosterone is low. I've been on gear for about 14 weeks and I'm taking Andromix at 2.5cc's eod. The Andromix consists of 60mg of masteron and tren ace per cc and 80 prop per cc. So my question is, is the stuff I'm taking bunk?

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    Did he give you the FT level and range?
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    She didn't. Do you think the stuff I'm getting is bunk since my free testosterone is low?

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    if your total T was 1500 or above then your gear is def not bunk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wants2bBig View Post
    She didn't. Do you think the stuff I'm getting is bunk since my free testosterone is low?
    Well, put it this way. On TRT if I run 60-70 mgs twice per week my total T is in the 14-1500's.
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    But why would my free testosterone be low if my gear is legit?

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    I'm starting to think it might be because my estrogen levels are high so I'm considering taking letro for a week then jump on Arimidex at .5 eod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wants2bBig View Post
    I'm starting to think it might be because my estrogen levels are high so I'm considering taking letro for a week then jump on Arimidex at .5 eod.
    Yes maybe but before you jump on letro or anything get your sensitive E2 tested. Just guessing is a bad way to go about it.

    If the adex is not working for you give liquidstane a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    Yes maybe but before you jump on letro or anything get your sensitive E2 tested. Just guessing is a bad way to go about it.

    Letro wont bring your estrogen down, it only stops it from binding and causing gyno. Adex or liquidex is used to bring it down.
    Having a brain fart brother? I think you are referring to Nolvadex ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Who_Am_I View Post
    Having a brain fart brother? I think you are referring to Nolvadex....
    Damn you caught me before I could edit. Yes 100% correct. I was the one having a brain fart. As soon as I hit reply I started to and had to go back to read what I wrote.

    Thanks for catching it quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    Damn you caught me before I could edit. Yes 100% correct.
    I shouldn't have quoted you!

    OP jumping on letro is overkill. Do you know what your estrogen levels are sitting at? How is the thyroid and liver looking? Take any other medications?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Who_Am_I View Post
    I shouldn't have quoted you!

    OP jumping on letro is overkill. Do you know what your estrogen levels are sitting at? How is the thyroid and liver looking? Take any other medications?
    ha, no worries it's all good. Keeps me honest if nothing else.

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    No other medications and my thyroid and liver look good. Is 20mg of nolvadex a day for 2 weeks good enough??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wants2bBig View Post
    No other medications and my thyroid and liver look good. Is 20mg of nolvadex a day for 2 weeks good enough??
    No Sir. Tamox can actually raise SHBG. You need an AI like Aromasin or Arimidex . Just not letro as it is too strong IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Who_Am_I View Post
    No Sir. Tamox can actually raise SHBG. You need an AI like Aromasin or Arimidex. Just not letro as it is too strong IMO.
    I have Arimidex on hand. How much would you recommend? Is .5 eod enough??

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    Is there a reason you dont want to get your sensitive E2 tested and KNOW if it's high or not?

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    Maybe I misread things so straighten me out. You've been on cycle for 14 weeks without an AI?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Maybe I misread things so straighten me out. You've been on cycle for 14 weeks without an AI?
    Yeah. I didn't use an AI because I didn't have any signs of gyno. I'm now taking .50 Arimidex eod would you say that's good enough?? I also have hcg on hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    Is there a reason you dont want to get your sensitive E2 tested and KNOW if it's high or not?
    I do just haven't done it yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wants2bBig View Post
    Yeah. I didn't use an AI because I didn't have any signs of gyno. I'm now taking .50 Arimidex eod would you say that's good enough?? I also have hcg on hand.
    That's not good at all. Gyno is not the only issue caused by high estrogen. Most problems are internal, not external. What you need is the proper estrogen test to then determine a practical dose. With your odd test levels I would not run .5 more than a week or so and drop it back to .25 eod. It works fast. Regarding HCG , it's to be used on cycle, "on hand" does nothing for you. Take a look at Austinites Successful First Cycle thread and follow it as best you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    That's not good at all. Gyno is not the only issue caused by high estrogen. Most problems are internal, not external. What you need is the proper estrogen test to then determine a practical dose. With your odd test levels I would not run .5 more than a week or so and drop it back to .25 eod. It works fast. Regarding HCG, it's to be used on cycle, "on hand" does nothing for you. Take a look at Austinites Successful First Cycle thread and follow it as best you can.
    Thanks brother!! I'll stick with Arimidex at .25 eod till I can meet with my doctor to get my estrogen checked.

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    If there's anything else I can take in the meantime to help let me know because I can pretty much get ahold of anything lol, my strength has been down and my stamina.

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    Do you know what your free testosterone or SHBG came back at?

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