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Thread: Do i have androgen insensitivity syndrome?

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    Do i have androgen insensitivity syndrome?

    I had taken anavar sometime ago. It dropped my test levels to 150 from 817 just in 8 days when im stopped it on the 8th day
    I went to my endo and he put me on clomid which brought my test levels to the 900s.
    But the problem is i still have severe symptoms of low testosterone . My libido is non existant, before it was extremely high my facial and pubic hair dont grow properly anymore and im not able to make any kinds of gains in the gym. Diet and workout are in check. Before i could make crazy gains. My e2 is also normal. Do i have ais? Is this even possible?

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    Give us some stats, age cycle history and the timeline of when the levels were where.

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    More than likely your anavar was Drol since it's faked by most places anymore because most cant tell the difference without having it tested and Drol is CHEAP compared to real anavar.

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    Oh for gods' sake. I foolishly looked at your old posts and saw that you are plainly the engineer of your own demise, screwing around with AAS at 19 when everyone warned you that you would mess yourself up.

    And now you are screwing with things further by injecting anything you can get your hands on, which is going to suppress you further. And you continue to be focussed on your workout gains instead of getting your act together and addressing this serious health problem you created. And people keep telling you this! Have you ever seen the movie Dumb and Dumber? They are going to write a sequel about your life.

    You have clearly fvcked up your brain and your endocrine system. I would recommend for you to find a good endo to treat you properly, but it's pretty clear you ignored the good advice you got before and you are going to continue to do whatever you want, so just do it.

    If you have normal male genitals and could previously grow terminal (thicker, darker "male" hair, instead of downy female body hair) hair on your upper lip/chin/chest (which you have alluded to being able to do when you said previously you had to shave every two days), you are very very unlikely to have even mild androgen insensitivity syndrome. You would need genetic testing to confirm this however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thisAngelBites View Post
    Oh for gods' sake. I foolishly looked at your old posts and saw that you are plainly the engineer of your own demise, screwing around with AAS at 19 when everyone warned you that you would mess yourself up.

    And now you are screwing with things further by injecting anything you can get your hands on, which is going to suppress you further. And you continue to be focussed on your workout gains instead of getting your act together and addressing this serious health problem you created. And people keep telling you this! Have you ever seen the movie Dumb and Dumber? They are going to write a sequel about your life.

    You have clearly fvcked up your brain and your endocrine system. I would recommend for you to find a good endo to treat you properly, but it's pretty clear you ignored the good advice you got before and you are going to continue to do whatever you want, so just do it.

    If you have normal male genitals and could previously grow terminal (thicker, darker "male" hair, instead of downy female body hair) hair on your upper lip/chin/chest (which you have alluded to being able to do when you said previously you had to shave every two days), you are very very unlikely to have even mild androgen insensitivity syndrome. You would need genetic testing to confirm this however.

    Oh my god angel lol. Your the best and I think you answered everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thisAngelBites View Post
    Oh for gods' sake. I foolishly looked at your old posts and saw that you are plainly the engineer of your own demise, screwing around with AAS at 19 when everyone warned you that you would mess yourself up.

    And now you are screwing with things further by injecting anything you can get your hands on, which is going to suppress you further. And you continue to be focussed on your workout gains instead of getting your act together and addressing this serious health problem you created. And people keep telling you this! Have you ever seen the movie Dumb and Dumber? They are going to write a sequel about your life.

    You have clearly fvcked up your brain and your endocrine system. I would recommend for you to find a good endo to treat you properly, but it's pretty clear you ignored the good advice you got before and you are going to continue to do whatever you want, so just do it.

    If you have normal male genitals and could previously grow terminal (thicker, darker "male" hair, instead of downy female body hair) hair on your upper lip/chin/chest (which you have alluded to being able to do when you said previously you had to shave every two days), you are very very unlikely to have even mild androgen insensitivity syndrome. You would need genetic testing to confirm this however.
    Hey thanks for the reply.
    If i dont have ais why am i not responding to the high test my reports are showing? I got it checked in 2 labs and both read above 900 still i have poor hair growth low libido, no gains etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    Give us some stats, age cycle history and the timeline of when the levels were where.
    I turned 20 years old this june, the anavar was my first ever cycle. I had taken it in november last year. Just for 8 days. I once was feeling my testo come back but i went and had alchohol and it got suppressed again. I previously use to "feel" an increase in endogenous test whenever i did intermittent fasting or after a weight training session but all that dosent happen now.
    My test before anything was at 820ng/dl 8 days after anavar they were at 150ng/dl, about 20 days later during pct(clomid 50) they were at 1110 ng/dl and this is the only time when all symptoms of low test had vanished, gains were amazing and hair growth was normal but i stopped clomid and they fell to 400ng/dl.
    Most recent reports show my levels at 900ng/dl(on clomid) but the symptoms of low test still exist. My endo dosent believe me and says they arent due to low test, though he has told me to take a 2nd opinion from a different doctor. What should i ask the doctor. Could any mods or vets here help me out?

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    So you think you have problems and have an appointment for a 2nd opinion but you started a cycle? WTF?
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    you start a thread paranoid about something everyday man... you need to stop aas now....it isn't for you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentkiller424 View Post
    I turned 20 years old this june, the anavar was my first ever cycle. I had taken it in november last year. Just for 8 days. I once was feeling my testo come back but i went and had alchohol and it got suppressed again. I previously use to "feel" an increase in endogenous test whenever i did intermittent fasting or after a weight training session but all that dosent happen now.
    My test before anything was at 820ng/dl 8 days after anavar they were at 150ng/dl, about 20 days later during pct(clomid 50) they were at 1110 ng/dl and this is the only time when all symptoms of low test had vanished, gains were amazing and hair growth was normal but i stopped clomid and they fell to 400ng/dl.
    Most recent reports show my levels at 900ng/dl(on clomid) but the symptoms of low test still exist. My endo dosent believe me and says they arent due to low test, though he has told me to take a 2nd opinion from a different doctor. What should i ask the doctor. Could any mods or vets here help me out?
    You were advised not to do the anavar only cycle here: http://forums.steroid.com/pct-post-c...-only-pct.html

    One of the consequences of taking steroids at your age is for the total T never come back as it was before, you were warned about it.
    You did it anyways, now deal with it. If you are old enough to take steroids you need to be old enough to face the consequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentkiller424 View Post
    Hey thanks for the reply.
    If i dont have ais why am i not responding to the high test my reports are showing? I got it checked in 2 labs and both read above 900 still i have poor hair growth low libido, no gains etc
    I don't know, but my working hypothesis is that all your testosterone is attached to the part of your brain responsible for bad judgment, because that part is working brilliantly.

    I think you miss the seriousness of what you have done and are distracting yourself with ideas of genetic abnormalities for which you have no evidence. You literally assaulted your endocrine system, which is consists of a very complicated interconnected system of very many slightly different chemicals that work in accordance with each other, and delicate feedback systems to keep the whole system in fine balance in order to carefully develop a system of chemical messengers to communicate with the many glands in your body. And then you took something that screwed with it while it was actively growing. No one (to my knowledge) has done any significant study of what the effects of these many AASs are when you take them as a kid and your brain and glands are still developing (there's no money in it), although we know that some are okay and a number never recover and have endocrine problems forever. No one knows why people react differently and whether the damage is limited to the amount of testosterone produced or if there are other effects. Some people take a year or more to recover, but achieve partial or even full recovery. It seems to be different for different people; some people are undoubtedly more sensitive than others.

    If I were you, I would grow up and spend my time online looking for testosterone replacement docs remotely near me online, or exhaustively looking to see if I could find any researchers who look at debilitating steroid use in the young and then calling and seeing if they have experience with people like you or can recommend someone who has treated a few cases like yours and has had some success. One of the people I might try to contact is Michael Scally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thisAngelBites View Post
    I don't know, but my working hypothesis is that all your testosterone is attached to the part of your brain responsible for bad judgment, because that part is working brilliantly.
    Killing me Angel......


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    Quote Originally Posted by thisAngelBites View Post
    I don't know, but my working hypothesis is that all your testosterone is attached to the part of your brain responsible for bad judgment, because that part is working brilliantly.

    I think you miss the seriousness of what you have done and are distracting yourself with ideas of genetic abnormalities for which you have no evidence. You literally assaulted your endocrine system, which is consists of a very complicated interconnected system of very many slightly different chemicals that work in accordance with each other, and delicate feedback systems to keep the whole system in fine balance in order to carefully develop a system of chemical messengers to communicate with the many glands in your body. And then you took something that screwed with it while it was actively growing. No one (to my knowledge) has done any significant study of what the effects of these many AASs are when you take them as a kid and your brain and glands are still developing (there's no money in it), although we know that some are okay and a number never recover and have endocrine problems forever. No one knows why people react differently and whether the damage is limited to the amount of testosterone produced or if there are other effects. Some people take a year or more to recover, but achieve partial or even full recovery. It seems to be different for different people; some people are undoubtedly more sensitive than others.

    If I were you, I would grow up and spend my time online looking for testosterone replacement docs remotely near me online, or exhaustively looking to see if I could find any researchers who look at debilitating steroid use in the young and then calling and seeing if they have experience with people like you or can recommend someone who has treated a few cases like yours and has had some success. One of the people I might try to contact is Michael Scally.
    LMFAO Angel for AR queen
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    Quote Originally Posted by thisAngelBites View Post
    I don't know, but my working hypothesis is that all your testosterone is attached to the part of your brain responsible for bad judgment, because that part is working brilliantly.

    I think you miss the seriousness of what you have done and are distracting yourself with ideas of genetic abnormalities for which you have no evidence. You literally assaulted your endocrine system, which is consists of a very complicated interconnected system of very many slightly different chemicals that work in accordance with each other, and delicate feedback systems to keep the whole system in fine balance in order to carefully develop a system of chemical messengers to communicate with the many glands in your body. And then you took something that screwed with it while it was actively growing. No one (to my knowledge) has done any significant study of what the effects of these many AASs are when you take them as a kid and your brain and glands are still developing (there's no money in it), although we know that some are okay and a number never recover and have endocrine problems forever. No one knows why people react differently and whether the damage is limited to the amount of testosterone produced or if there are other effects. Some people take a year or more to recover, but achieve partial or even full recovery. It seems to be different for different people; some people are undoubtedly more sensitive than others.

    If I were you, I would grow up and spend my time online looking for testosterone replacement docs remotely near me online, or exhaustively looking to see if I could find any researchers who look at debilitating steroid use in the young and then calling and seeing if they have experience with people like you or can recommend someone who has treated a few cases like yours and has had some success. One of the people I might try to contact is Michael Scally.
    Hey thanks for all the advise angel. How can i attempt to contact michael scally? Does he have a facebook page or an email id where i can contact him on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentkiller424 View Post
    Hey thanks for all the advise angel. How can i attempt to contact michael scally? Does he have a facebook page or an email id where i can contact him on.
    Maybe you could try google.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thisAngelBites View Post
    Maybe you could try google.
    How do all these kids not know how to use Google? You know how many times I have to suggest that for simple things like this? DAMN talk about needing their hands held and spoon feed...

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