"Cycles for the novice"

**cuban1983** · 06-25-2003, 03:59 PM

Ive noticed that the "cycles for the novice" section on the homepage has a bunch of cycles laid out, but some give information that info found here on AR contradicts....like tapering for instance, and running enanthate 200mg/wk for 10 wks (all info found here says that is a waste). Just wondering what that was all about

**tt333** · 06-25-2003, 04:08 PM

200mgs a week is a waste. I would go with 4 or 500 a week. I dont think tapering does anything for you. Just go strait with 4-500mgs.

**dacowboy** · 06-25-2003, 05:02 PM

it also says that newbies shouldnt run test in their cycles, but forum people seem to think test is the best for a first cycle?

**956Vette** · 06-25-2003, 05:31 PM

Those cycles on the homepage all suck IMO. I think the mods are actually going to revise them soon.
Hopefully someone will come in on this thread and clarify this situation.

**tt333** · 06-25-2003, 06:46 PM

I thought they have already revised the profiles? Test imo is the best cycle for beginners. You cant go wrong.

**gundam675** · 06-25-2003, 06:55 PM

CYCLEON.... .... ........

***JohnnyB*** · 06-25-2003, 09:26 PM

I agree test for your first, keep it simple.

JohnnyB

**strollin** · 06-25-2003, 09:49 PM

Anadrol and Fina for the first cycle, both at 150 ed..LOL

**Dancer** · 06-25-2003, 10:08 PM

One of everything and a diet coke.

ok seriously 500-750mgs of test for 10 weeks and 25mg dbol to kick the cycle of for the first 4.

***JohnnyB*** · 06-26-2003, 08:13 AM

750 seem to high to me, 350-500mg a week would be good.

JohnnyB

**seven_five** · 06-26-2003, 10:42 AM

How 'bout a "homemade gear" fina / test prop beginer cycle in the list? Then you would have a lot less beginners PM'ing everyone for "sources"

**daem** · 06-26-2003, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by seven_five
How 'bout a "homemade gear" fina / test prop beginer cycle in the list? Then you would have a lot less beginners PM'ing everyone for "sources"

because of the strength of trenbolone , a novice should not incorporate it into a first cycle. the ED injects also required can be overwhelming especially when week 6 or 7 rolls around.

a single long ester test cycle should be good for a novice user to see how the body reacts and then be able to adjust accordingly.

also, i don't need to mention that if you are predisposed to gyno, a test only cycle will allow you to see how test makes your body react in order to plan which anti's to run in future cycles.

a number of beneficial reasons not to stray from test for a beginning cycle.

***JohnnyB*** · 06-26-2003, 10:51 AM

Fina isn't for beginners, do 3 or 4 cycle then do some fina.

JohnnyB

**seven_five** · 06-26-2003, 11:14 AM

Those poor cattle, running fina on their very first cycle! Seriously though, thanks for the comment on fina.

However is EOD test prop injections really that different than Test eth once a week for a first cycle? Also, I'm not interested in experimenting with seeing how what anti -e's I need to run NEXT time. I'll be running them from the very first cycle. I understand that EOD injections are daunting for some beginners, and I know that the test prop injections hurt afterwards, but other than that, "test is test" right?

***JohnnyB*** · 06-26-2003, 12:19 PM

Originally posted by seven_five
Those poor cattle, running fina on their very first cycle! Seriously though, thanks for the comment on fina.

Not only thier first but their last too

JohnnyB

**cuban1983** · 06-27-2003, 07:29 PM

ALSO......the steroid effectiveness chart on the homepage, how accurate would all you vets say it is? Im about to do a enanthate /eq cycle and it sayd the test is a 1/5 in "keeping gains". im assuming thats not taking into consideration pct.

**stubby** · 06-27-2003, 07:40 PM

My first cycle was simply 1 sus 250 every 5 days for seven weeks. I also worked my ass off in the gym and ate 10,000 calories a day--if I could. Anyways I put on a good
30 pounds. Seems unbelieveable for such a small cycle but it's not.