Tren/Prop Pain

**m16a2** · 12-02-2015, 12:30 PM

I've got 75mg Prop and 100mg Tren and I am hitting it EOD with about 100/100 (1.35-1.45 cc prop and 1 cc tren). The problem is that the shot is 2.45cc's and it is hurting really bad! I've done a tren/prop/mast cycle a few months ago, but it was a blend, so less juice per shot. I'm wondering if anyone else has had pretty unusual pain with tren/prop in the 2.35-2.5cc range?

I even broke it down to ED and the shot was 1.2cc and hit my quad yesterday. It is hurting bad even with that much. I'm heating the shot and going through a 25 gauge... I usually have minimal site pain.

Anyone have any ideas?

**Bio-Active** · 12-02-2015, 12:33 PM

What site are you pinning? Prop does have a little more bite

**Bo58** · 12-02-2015, 12:39 PM

I also get a lot of injection pain from prop. I would try rotating injection sites. You can also warm the oil up before injecting it (hold vial in front of hair dryer). Also make sure you inject slowly. If I know an injection is going to be very painful, I will also shoot B vitamins in with the other compound. That seems to help cut down on the soreness

**Mr.BB** · 12-02-2015, 12:43 PM

I hate prop cause of the pain, it can get better after 3-4 weeks.

Tren doesnt give me much pain.

High volume of oil doesnt ussually gives more pip, I can put 4mls in quads with minimal pip.

**m16a2** · 12-02-2015, 12:50 PM

I get some PIP from Prop but I'm used to that level of pain. I did change brand though, so it might be this particular one is painful. The pain might also subside (or reduce)... it's week 1 of using this batch.

I already mentioned that I heat the oil and I do push slow, always. Using a 25 gauge, you really have to push slow. And with EOD or ED, I have to rotate the injection sites. I never go into a site that is still experiencing PIP.

Sorry guys, this is like my 8th cycle, and the basics of site rotation and heating oil aren't new concepts (this is my tren kicking in, sorry for the temper).

**m16a2** · 12-02-2015, 12:53 PM

Oh yeah, another weird thing happened today! I got the tren cough for the first time ever. I've run 3-4 cycles with tren and never had that before... I was pushing into my quad and when I was almost done (.5 cc's left), I broke out in uncontrollable coughing. It was horrible trying to keep the pin steady while coughing up a lung.

**ghettoboyd** · 12-02-2015, 01:18 PM

it must be the prop as I used to use tren e to cut prop and even test 500(ugl know for big pip) and it made the pip disappear bye just putting them in the same pin...odd...

**m16a2** · 12-02-2015, 01:49 PM

Here's the thing though... I started the prop 10 days before I added in the tren ... and I had little PIP with just prop but it was from a different UGL but it was 100mg/ml. Now i've got 75mg/ml and it is hurting this much. Maybe I should suck it up and order the prop from the other ugl or wait it out and see if the pain reduces. Opinions?

**ghettoboyd** · 12-02-2015, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by m16a2

Here's the thing though... I started the prop 10 days before I added in the tren... and I had little PIP with just prop but it was from a different UGL but it was 100mg/ml. Now i've got 75mg/ml and it is hurting this much. Maybe I should suck it up and order the prop from the other ugl or wait it out and see if the pain reduces. Opinions?

it could be the oil its made with maybe your sensitive to it...it could also be the compound itself but it doesn't seem likely since it dosed less per ml...it could be dirty gear as well but then id think you would have more problems than pip...like I said odd..

**m16a2** · 12-02-2015, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by ghettoboyd

it could be the oil its made with maybe your sensitive to it...it could also be the compound itself but it doesn't seem likely since it dosed less per ml...it could be dirty gear as well but then id think you would have more problems than pip...like I said odd..

Yeah, it is odd! You might be right about the oil causing irritation. I'm going to tough it out for another 2 weeks and if things don't improve, I will order new prop from another ugl.

**ghettoboyd** · 12-02-2015, 02:39 PM

nice brother good luck...

**NACH3** · 12-03-2015, 10:40 AM

Are you allergic to EO? Could be the carrier oil the source used and some don't get on to well with that!

**m16a2** · 12-03-2015, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by NACH3

Are you allergic to EO? Could be the carrier oil the source used and some don't get on to well with that!

The strangest thing happened. I hit the full 2.35cc's to my left quad yesterday and I have barely any PIP today. Maybe I was just hitting bad spots or not moving around enough after the shot. I do work from home most of the time, so other than my trips to the gym and errands, I'm usually not moving around too much.

Hopefully the PIP is gone for good. The source said they use cottonseed oil and their products are slightly overdosed (75mg prop is really closer to 100mg prop). I guess they want to be conservative. I'll see how the next shot goes tomorrow.