first cycle - test e 500mg - high estradiol

**ocman** · 02-10-2016, 04:06 PM

18 days into my first cycle:

estradiol 20.0 7.6-42.6 pg/mL - 7 days before cycle
estradiol 47.3 7.6-42.6 pg/mL - 14 days into cycle

I bumped up the arimidex to .5mg today, is there anything else I should be doing?

test e 500mg/week
hcg 500iu/week
arimidex .25mg eod (started at day 2)

thanks

**AR's King Silabolin** · 02-10-2016, 04:35 PM

You know your fat%?

**ocman** · 02-10-2016, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Silabolin

You know your fat%?

It was 13.1% before the cycle and I've been eating about 400 calories over maintenance.

**ocman** · 02-11-2016, 02:38 PM

bump for the day crowd...

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 02-11-2016, 03:16 PM

I would try .25mg ED and test again in 2 weeks

**ocman** · 02-11-2016, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog

I would try .25mg ED and test again in 2 weeks

Thanks, I was thinking of doing .5mg eod, but .25mg ed sounds better...

**Sfla80** · 02-11-2016, 07:28 PM

That's crazy only 14 days in on test e....ur e doubled?

What made u get bloods only 14 days in anyways? Just curious

**ocman** · 02-11-2016, 07:35 PM

I was feeling pretty shitty...test is 2685.9

**SuperNova93** · 02-11-2016, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by Sfla80

That's crazy only 14 days in on test e....ur e doubled?

What made u get bloods only 14 days in anyways? Just curious

I take it that those numbers aren't normal after only 2 weeks on test even with an AI?? Just curious because I'm starting my 1st cycle next week after I get my bw in.

**kelkel** · 02-11-2016, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by ocman

Thanks, I was thinking of doing .5mg eod, but .25mg ed sounds better...

Do your math here. .25 ed ends up being .25 more than .5 eod would total. I mention this as you would be more than doubling your current dose which would be quite a substantial jump, imho. Also of note is that the test was, or appears to be standard estradiol. Meaning it normally reads higher than the more accurate Sensitive Assay. Often times quite a bit higher. Next is that your estrogen is really not that bad to substantiate a huge increase in dose, imho.
Small increase, sure. Large, no. Retest in 4 weeks with a Sensitive Assay for accuracy. Private MD Labs has it for a little under $40 I believe.

Example: My last E2 Sensitive Test on cycle came in at 43.4 on a scale of 8 - 35. I'm fine with that.

**AR's King Silabolin** · 02-12-2016, 01:44 AM

Agree with kelkel. 47 for e2 is not bad. You feel shitty?. Well, thats why we have kickstarts. Test e doesnt improve weel-beeing before week 3-6. And some doesnt feel it on the mucles before then either. But, it peaks 24-36 hours after shot, so i guess it converts rigth away. Maybe thats why you feel a bit down.

Stay with .25. Wait and see two more weeks. Wait until your enanthate hits you before you make up your mind.

There is no risk, feeling a bit shitty from e2 is not dangerous. Using to much ais is worse.

**ocman** · 02-12-2016, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Do your math here. .25 ed ends up being .25 more than .5 eod would total. I mention this as you would be more than doubling your current dose which would be quite a substantial jump, imho.

Do you think I should just stay at .25mg eod like I started, then test in 4 weeks?

**ocman** · 02-12-2016, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by Silabolin

Stay with .25. Wait and see two more weeks. Wait until your enanthate hits you before you make up your mind.

So, stay with .25mg eod then test in 2 weeks?

**ocman** · 03-09-2016, 05:23 PM

Ok, I stayed at .25mg EOD and estradiol is now 55.5 (7.6-42.6 pg/mL), slightly up from 47.3 four weeks ago.

This was the estradiol test that came with the testosterone test that I did previously, I meant to order the sensitive test but ordered the wrong one...doh!

I feel much better these days, do you think I need to get the sensitive test done anyways?

**ocman** · 04-02-2016, 09:07 AM

Upped the arimidex to .5mg eod, 3 weeks ago and just got results back:

Estradiol, Sensitive
41.4 (8.0-35.0 pg/mL)

I'm 10 weeks in and think I'm going to leave the dosage where it is...?

**NACH3** · 04-02-2016, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by ocman

Upped the arimidex to .5mg eod, 3 weeks ago and just got results back:

Estradiol, Sensitive
41.4 (8.0-35.0 pg/mL)

I'm 10 weeks in and think I'm going to leave the dosage where it is...?

What's your BF%? Was this a sensitive essay(E2)

**ocman** · 04-02-2016, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by NACH3

What's your BF%? Was this a sensitive essay(E2)

Put on 17 lbs so far, guessing around 16%, yes it was sensitive assay.

**kelkel** · 04-02-2016, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by ocman

Upped the arimidex to .5mg eod, 3 weeks ago and just got results back:

Estradiol, Sensitive
41.4 (8.0-35.0 pg/mL)

I'm 10 weeks in and think I'm going to leave the dosage where it is...?

Leave it be. Nice to see you putting in the effort.