E2 Crash Questions

**SuperNova93** · 02-10-2016, 09:10 PM

Hey everyone!

About to start my cycle of 500mg Test E(weekly) and 30mg Dianabol (Daily) along with 500IU HCG (weekly)

I'm wondering about what dose I should start at with my Arimidex . Everyone I've talked to has said .5mg EOD is fine, but I'm wondering if that is going to be too high to make my E2 crash, or not. I've been reading a lot of threads on people who crash E2 quickly with a weekly total dose of 1.5mg. Should I not be overly concerned with that? I believe those individuals were on TRT with doses around 200mg weekly of test, so obviously they aren't aromatizing as much as I will be.

Just curious to know what is best to start out with and when to adjust if needed.

Thanks!

**Dj Screw** · 02-10-2016, 09:47 PM

Some of it depends on your body fat but .25/.5mg eod sounds about right with 500mg and DBol . I would do .5mg eod if I were you. The trick to making it perfect is getting your blood work around 6 weeks in when everything starts to level out as long as you are keeping your test/ai dosage consistent.

**SuperNova93** · 02-10-2016, 10:00 PM

okay I was leaning towards to .5mg eod. My bf% is about 10%. It was 8% at the beginning of January and I've gone up 8lbs since then, so conservatively, it's 10%. I have my cycle already, I'm just going to try and get some bw done first to know my base lines. Gotta sweet talk the doc though. Up here in canada we get bw for free as long as a doctor thinks we need one ;p

**Dj Screw** · 02-10-2016, 10:11 PM

Lol wow, free blood work sounds awesome. Yeah you are low bf obviously so just lookout for sore/achy joints (knee/wrist etc.) that's the best way to pickup on estrogen going too low early before you get blood done mid cycle. They will start to make kind of a "clicking" or popping noise. Good luck

**AR's King Silabolin** · 02-11-2016, 02:28 AM

When your at 10% and 500 mg test, the ones i have seen on the net would say .25 every third day.
I use aromasin though but when your bodyfat is low, less test will convert and you dont need so much ais.
Always do as little as possible

**TheTaxMan** · 02-11-2016, 06:53 AM

Its widely advised to start your arimidex at 0.25mg EOD from the start of your cycle.

Get mid cycle blood work done and look at your E2 levels and then adjust if needed.

When you cycle more and more you will eventualy learn what dose you need for what cycle but its all guessing without bloodwork.

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 02-11-2016, 07:02 AM

My guess is he probably needs more than .25mg EOD because he is also using d-Bol.

**Mr.BB** · 02-11-2016, 07:32 AM

If you are worried about e2 you should not be using dbol .

Is it your first cycle?

**SuperNova93** · 02-11-2016, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

If you are worried about e2 you should not be using dbol .

Is it your first cycle?

Yes it will be my first cycle. I know test only is recommended, but I'm throwing in d-bol at 20mg/day for 4 weeks. nothing heavier than that.

**Mr.BB** · 02-11-2016, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by SuperNova93

Yes it will be my first cycle. I know test only is recommended, but I'm throwing in d-bol at 20mg/day for 4 weeks. nothing heavier than that.

Test only, if you ran into sides you have idea if its from the test or the dbol .

At least, run the dbol in the last 4 weeks, when you should have a feel of what is to run test.

**SuperNova93** · 02-11-2016, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

Test only, if you ran into sides you have idea if its from the test or the dbol .

At least, run the dbol in the last 4 weeks, when you should have a feel of what is to run test.

I'm running Test Enanthate though, so sides shouldn't pop up until around week 4 right? D-bol sides would pop up within the first week.

**Mr.BB** · 02-11-2016, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by SuperNova93

I'm running Test Enanthate though, so sides shouldn't pop up until around week 4 right? D-bol sides would pop up within the first week.

You are stuborn as hell. Do whatever you want ffs.

**SuperNova93** · 02-11-2016, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

You are stuborn as hell. Do whatever you want ffs.

No need to be rude about it man. As you can see from the question mark, it was a question I was asking you since you are hell of a lot more experienced than I am. I was asking because this is the explanation I've gotten from a few people already and just want clarity.

Thank you for your input Mr.BB

**kelkel** · 02-11-2016, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by SuperNova93

No need to be rude about it man. As you can see from the question mark, it was a question I was asking you since you are hell of a lot more experienced than I am. I was asking because this is the explanation I've gotten from a few people already and just want clarity.

Thank you for your input Mr.BB

BB gave you the best advice. Follow the Successful First Cycle Thread and you'll be fine. Patience is key. Learn what Test will do for you. You've got plenty of time to add to cycles later when you're more experienced. When it comes to "sides popping up" know that most sides are internal, not external. Gyno is not the only side like so many think.

**SuperNova93** · 02-11-2016, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

BB gave you the best advice. Follow the Successful First Cycle Thread and you'll be fine. Patience is key. Learn what Test will do for you. You've got plenty of time to add to cycles later when you're more experienced. When it comes to "sides popping up" know that most sides are internal, not external. Gyno is not the only side like so many think.

I think I'll take yours and BB's advice. Stick to 500mg of test E for my first cycle. Definitely getting a little carried away. I have the dbol already, so I can save that for my 2nd or even 3rd cycle.

Quick question btw; once I mix the HCG with bac water and store it in the fridge, supposedly it's only good for 6 weeks?? How am I supposed to make it 12 weeks if the HCG goes bad by week 6?? This could be a very stupid question to some lol

**kelkel** · 02-11-2016, 09:53 PM

Not a stupid question at all. You'll be just fine with your HCG . It does not just go bad after a period of time, like turning off a switch or something. As long as it's refrigerated it will be just fine for you cycle. It's internet dogma.

Read this:

HCG: Why you should use it on-cycle only & how to prepare your hCG for injections

Only thing I'd probably do different is to mix with 2 ml BAC Water if you have a 5000 IU bottle, or with 4 ml's if 10,000 IU's. Either way, pull back to .10 on your slin pin for 250 IU's.

**SuperNova93** · 02-11-2016, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Not a stupid question at all. You'll be just fine with your HCG . It does not just go bad after a period of time, like turning off a switch or something. As long as it's refrigerated it will be just fine for you cycle. It's internet dogma.

Read this:

HCG: Why you should use it on-cycle only & how to prepare your hCG for injections

Only thing I'd probably do different is to mix with 2 ml BAC Water if you have a 5000 IU bottle, or with 4 ml's if 10,000 IU's. Either way, pull back to .10 on your slin pin for 250 IU's.

Okay perfect, thank you! that's quite a relief lol. I'm also under the impression that drawing my HCG along with my Test E into the same syringe is fine??