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    Cool Advice/critics on next cycle

    BOYS!!

    Back at it again, been off for a while. Looking to do a lean bulk cycle, no bloating if possible.
    I have experience with tren E (2 cycles of it already).
    28yold - 220-230 14%
    So this is what it looks like:

    W1-12 Test C 400mg or 300mg??
    W1-10 Tren E 400mg
    W1-8 Anavar at 80mg or Winny at 50mg??
    W1-14 HCG 500 ui twice a week
    W1-14 Aromasin at 12.5mg a day
    W1-12 Caber at 0.5mg twice a week (help here please i have only used prami and hate that shit).

    Post Cycle will be aggressive
    Blast of HCG every 2 days (probably 1000UI)
    Clomid 100/50/50/50
    Nova 40/20/20/20

    Thanks in advance

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    A lot of guys like to keep Test lower than tren to reduce the need for an AI, so 250-300 a week would be good. Anavar generally won't do much for you at 14% and same with Winny. If you're bulking, why don't you add in a small dose of dbol ? say 20-25mg/day? as long as your water intake is high, your water retention won't be bad at all. Or you could use Turinabol . Much cleaner than Dbol.

    Make sure you don't desensitize your Leydig cells with that type of HCG use!

    good luck mate! Cheers!

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    Absolutely no need for the HCG blast at the end if you are using it during cycle.

    Also, caber 0.5 twice a week is overkill, half of that will do the trick but you should only use it if your prolactin is high.
    12.5 mgs of aromasin is not enough, aromasin needs to be used at 25mg a day to be effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperNova93 View Post
    as long as your water intake is high, your water retention won't be bad at all.
    really? i would never have guessed that.

    why is that?

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    If you dont drink enough water your body will retain the water it has.

    The more water you drink the more water your body will expel.

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    What test dose have you ran with your tren previously and how did that feel?

    Why the need to add an oral? I think they'd probably almost be a waste if your tren is at 400mg.

    Agree no need to blast HCG but you could/should extend your Nolva by 2 weeks at 20/20.

    Your aromasin dosage will be dictated by your test dose (and a bloodwork)
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    Hey brother, thanks for the response. Cut cycle I meant lol.

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    I have ran test higher than ten 500mg test 400mg Tren . Felt like a king but did not sleep at night (trensomnia).
    I like to start with orals when I do long ester...
    So you say 6 weeks nolva pct?

    I usually start my aromasin at 12.5mg a day, then get BW done and adjust.

    I have never use CABER, I want to use it for the Tren sides... trensomnia and shit.. or should i just get some benadryl?

    HELP ON THE CABER PLEASSSE hahaha.

    Thanks man

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    Bloading is due to high E's isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by christian123
    Bloading is due to high E's isn't it?
    IMO...
    Both testosterone and estrogen cause water retention.

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    Ya... I've had lot's of water retention doing higher T doses even if my E's were within range
    This is why I am lowering it this time..

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    Can some one advise me on Caber dosage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by christian123
    Can some one advise me on Caber dosage?
    please

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    Quote Originally Posted by christian123 View Post
    Can some one advise me on Caber dosage?
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    please
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    Also, caber 0.5 twice a week is overkill, half of that will do the trick but you should only use it if your prolactin is high.
    Maybe you didnt like my answer^^, but it is what others will tell, 0.25mgs twice a week is the normal, so its like half dostinex pill 2x a week.

    Cabergoline will do nothing for trensonia, its not a prolactin issue. High prolactin side effects are lactation and difficult to orgasm, I only use caber if blood work says so or if this last side effect starts to appear.

    About aromasin read this: Exemestane-The Underdosed AI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB
    Maybe you didnt like my answer^^, but it is what others will tell, 0.25mgs twice a week is the normal, so its like half dostinex pill 2x a week. Cabergoline will do nothing for trensonia, its not a prolactin issue. High prolactin side effects are lactation and difficult to orgasm, I only use caber if blood work says so or if this last side effect starts to appear. About aromasin read this: Exemestane-The Underdosed AI
    Lmao thanks bud, i did like your answer just wondering on other inputs. I will then wait 3-4 weeks get BW done and use accordingly.

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