Test e / tren e critique (1st tren cycle)

[upperhandy]

Me 39yo
180#
Sub 10%bf
3/4/5 b/sq/dl

I have a couple sporadic 500mg test cycles under my belt and one 500mg test/300mg deca cycle

Considering 250mg test/250mg tren cycle
Week 1-2 Dbol 37.5mg ed
Week 1-12 test e 250mg ew
***Week 3-12 tren e 240mg ew
Week 13-14 Anavar 75mg ed
Week 1-14 250iu hcg eod
Week 3-12 0.5mg caber ew
Week 15-18 nolva 20mg ed
Week 15-18 clomid 50mg ed


***Alternatively considering
Week 5-12 tren e 300mg ew

[TheTaxMan]

4 compounds at what cycle 3? tren at cycle 3? they say aim to use tren at cycle 5,6 and try other AAS first

why 1 week of anavar ?
wheres your AI?

[upperhandy]

Anavar week 13&14
Orals to start and finish is normally what I do (two week kick start two week back out)
I have a more extensive history than stated up top

I don't get test sides (except bacne) even at 500mg/week
I've had other issues running ai's so at low test doses I don't bother (personal choice)
I'm also considering ditching the caber. @300mg ew deca /500mg testI had zero issues w no ai no caber and a great recovery

[upperhandy]

More complete cycle history
Ten plus years ago
Dbol only x 3
Deca only x 3
No pct....no issues

After finding this site
(all cycles w/ Orals beginning and end,hcg ,and proper pct)
Test @500mg x 3
Test/eq
Test/deca
Also experimented with low dose test
Test @250mg
Test@ 375mg

[TheTaxMan]

id defo run an AI on a tren cycle buddy

anavar for 2 weeks is a complete waste? it will just start to build up in that time, anavar should be ran 8-10 weeks to fully uitilise its benefits

same with the 2 weeks dbol , although you will feel it, still kind of seems a waste only 2 weeks

id personaly just pick one oral and run a decent course of it.

as for caber ive never ran it, but keep it on hand just incase its needed

[upperhandy]

id defo run an AI on a tren cycle buddy

as for caber ive never ran it, but keep it on hand just incase its needed

Tren doesn't aromatize....so why the ai?

[Sfla80]

Curious u have said no issues a couple time and great recovery.

Did you get bloods to confirm all this or just by the way u feel?

[upperhandy]

Curious u have said no issues a couple time and great recovery.

Did you get bloods to confirm all this or just by the way u feel?

Point taken
By feel
No sexual sides, great mood, good mass and strength retention, good appetite
Blood work would be the appropriate way too actually coffin this tho

[TheTaxMan]

i never ran an AI on any cycle when i was younger with high test, no gyno
i never ran an AI on test e 250 and tren e 200 and half way through i had a huge painful lump on my left nipple, i ran nolva to combat it an introduced an AI and it was fixed.

for the sake of 0.25mg of adex EOD, why risk it?

anyway, by the sound of your replies you dont seem to need critique, looks like your all planned and set to go on your decisions.

good luck

[upperhandy]

I'm just looking to learn
Only way to do that is to ask questions
No offense meant
Thanks for your input

[TheTaxMan]

no offense taken buddy
this is what i would do with the stuff you have

test e 250mg 12 or 14 weeks
tren e 250mg 10 or 12 weeks
anavar 50mg or 75mg ED for 8 weeks (start it from either week 1 or week 6 if you want to back load it)

arimidex 0.25mg EOD
HCG 250iu x 2 per week
caber on hand

PCT
clomid 75/50/50/50
nolva 40/20/20/20

[upperhandy]

no offense taken buddy
this is what i would do with the stuff you have

Appreciate the input
Def don't want to come off as stubborn or unwilling to take critique/feedback
At the same time I also want to maintain a questioning attitude...that way I learn as much as possible