primo only or add test??

**Goodily** · 06-30-2003, 08:04 PM

this will be my 2nd cycle..........the first was 250 primoteston and 200 primo for 8 weeks................i did good and liked it..........but today a friend told me that your body produces 250 test on its own so why take it unless u take alot.........so anyway i had been thinking of taking 300mg of test enan and 300 primo......so what should I just drop the test and go with straight primo..........how much.........300 or 400 or shoiuld I add the test..........I want to add quality keepable gains....safely, and how much do you all think I can gain..........the last one was about ........17lbs quality.!!!! so now I am stuck in not knowing what to do........please help!

by the way I have worked out many years <i am 26.........175 lbs at 5 foot 10. so yeah I wanted to start next week.....so any help would be greatly appreciated.

**pete675** · 07-01-2003, 04:15 AM

I don't think your body makes 250mg's of test per week. I thought it was something like 2.5 per day. As far as the test goes. primo only = little gains with little sides. the test will give you bigger gains with bigger sides. Although from my personal experience the primo seems to help lessen the sides.

**01dragonslayer** · 07-01-2003, 09:07 AM

No cycle is complete without test. Add some prop in there along with some EQ and maybe some winny for a nice lean mass cycle.

**G Child** · 07-01-2003, 09:20 AM

You should be able to gain 10lbs on 400-500mg primo if everything else falls into place.

**Goodily** · 07-01-2003, 06:47 PM

if i add test how much and for how long?

**01dragonslayer** · 07-01-2003, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by Goodily

if i add test how much and for how long?

Depends on what your goals are bro. You can add prop @ 75-100mg/ED(150-200mg/EOD) to keep the bloat to a minimum or you can run 500mg/wk of enth if you want to run a longer estered test. You'll retain a little more water with the enth, but your anti-e should minimize it somewhat. IMO you'll be able to retain more of your gains with the enth. Whatever you decide I wouldn't go any shorter than 10wks.

***Billy_Bathgate*** · 07-02-2003, 01:12 AM

Its more liek 180 if you tallied it up, but remeber your body comes in surges, not constant even levels throughout the day. That makes a big difference.

Also if your on primo and already was on test, your already shut down, so by dropping the test your natural levels wont be there..

keep it in