If Test E/C take so long to kick in...

**MMA_Influenced** · 05-16-2016, 01:37 AM

Why do we only run 10-12 week cycles? A lot of people dont notice a difference until weeks 5-6.. so why do we only get 6 good weeks out of the cycle? I would want to pack on lean mass more than that.

Also, how should I eat on cycle? I generally aim to gain 1 pound per week (Natty) during a bulk.

Should I shoot to gain more than 1 pound per week on cycle? Also should I wait until week 5-6 to up my caloric intake?

Basically I need information on diet and how to make that work with your cycle.

**dk94** · 05-16-2016, 03:10 PM

Some people say that they stop gaining results after week 12 and it can be hard on your body, i run test E for 14-16 then do a longer 6-7 week pct, maybe even longer until i run out. Figure your your total daily energy expenditure, account for calories burned while training and add 500 calories, that will put you at a 500 calorie a day surplus. This would be a good starting point in my opinion and you can adjust it depending on how your body reacts. There is a good diet section on this forum, it helped me tons.

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 05-16-2016, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by MMA_Influenced

Why do we only run 10-12 week cycles? A lot of people dont notice a difference until weeks 5-6.. so why do we only get 6 good weeks out of the cycle? I would want to pack on lean mass more than that.

Also, how should I eat on cycle? I generally aim to gain 1 pound per week (Natty) during a bulk.

Should I shoot to gain more than 1 pound per week on cycle? Also should I wait until week 5-6 to up my caloric intake?

Basically I need information on diet and how to make that work with your cycle.

In two weeks, you will be at about 75% of peak serum levels.
In four weeks, you will be about 100% of peak serum levels.
You should be noticing weight gain and libido increase by the end of week 2.

Eat a little more on cycle IMO.
Up your caloric intake for week 1 on IMO.
You can easily put on 20lbs in 12 weeks but do understand that about half of that will be water.