Low libido and depression 6 weeks into cycle.. need major help

[DigitalFlex]

What about getting a dopamine agonist?

[hammerheart]

What about getting a dopamine agonist?

That's rather unconventional, and unpredictable.

[saucerking]

Only? Ahahah mate I won't inject more than 100 in a single pin, too much sides for me.

So you only do 100mg a week? I'm confused

Answer to this question: "Yeah I definitely plan on getting more blood work. Is there a name of a blood test that gets everything you just mentioned"?
Complete Blood Count (CBC), Comprehensive Metabolic Panel - 14 tests

Okay will do. I'll buy it today and update this thread with results

[saucerking]

What about getting a dopamine agonist?

Like what?

[hammerheart]

So you only do 100mg a week? I'm confused

I'm on TRT.

[saucerking]

I'm on TRT.

Oh okay. Well I'm on a cycle not TRT lol.

[hammerheart]

Oh okay. Well I'm on a cycle not TRT lol.

Not the point. You are facing the same issues I do, at way lower dosages.

[stanman]

Well, there's a lot more stuff going on in your body than your sex hormones, I suggest (In my humble opinion) that you post up you diet and supplement intake. It also maybe worth dropping your intake to 300 mg per week. Not everyone is the same, I'll be doing my first cycle in a few months, i'm in my mid 40's,definitely playing it cautiously and will pin around 3- 400mg PW.

[saucerking]

UPDATE: My latest blood test results:


CBC and CMP With Differential/Platelet:
WBC 4.4 x10E3/uL 3.4 - 10.8 01
RBC 5.30 x10E6/uL 4.14 - 5.80 01
Hemoglobin 15.4 g/dL 12.6 - 17.7 01
Hematocrit 44.7 % 37.5 - 51.0 01
MCV 84 fL 79 - 97 01
MCH 29.1 pg 26.6 - 33.0 01
MCHC 34.5 g/dL 31.5 - 35.7 01
RDW 14.0 % 12.3 - 15.4 01
Platelets 238 x10E3/uL 150 - 379 01
Neutrophils 65 % 01
Lymphs 26 % 01
Monocytes 7 % 01
Eos 2 % 01
Basos 0 % 01
Neutrophils (Absolute) 2.9 x10E3/uL 1.4 - 7.0 01
Lymphs (Absolute) 1.1 x10E3/uL 0.7 - 3.1 01
Monocytes(Absolute) 0.3 x10E3/uL 0.1 - 0.9 01
Eos (Absolute) 0.1 x10E3/uL 0.0 - 0.4 01
Baso (Absolute) 0.0 x10E3/uL 0.0 - 0.2 01
Immature Granulocytes 0 % 01
Immature Grans (Abs) 0.0 x10E3/uL 0.0 - 0.1 01
Comp. Metabolic Panel (14)
Glucose, Serum 90 mg/dL 65 - 99 01
BUN 16 mg/dL 6 - 20 01
Creatinine, Serum 1.14 mg/dL 0.76 - 1.27 01
eGFR If NonAfricn Am 91 mL/min/1.73 >59
eGFR If Africn Am 106 mL/min/1.73 >59
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 14 8 - 19
1.00
Sodium, Serum 142 mmol/L 134 - 144 01
Potassium, Serum 4.5 mmol/L 3.5 - 5.2 01
Chloride, Serum 103 mmol/L 97 - 108 01
Carbon Dioxide, Total 23 mmol/L 18 - 29 01
Calcium, Serum 9.1 mg/dL 8.7 - 10.2 01
Protein, Total, Serum 6.4 g/dL 6.0 - 8.5 01
Albumin, Serum 4.1 g/dL 3.5 - 5.5 01
Globulin, Total 2.3 g/dL 1.5 - 4.5
A/G Ratio 1.8 1.1 - 2.5
Bilirubin, Total 0.8 mg/dL 0.0 - 1.2 01
Alkaline Phosphatase, S 61 IU/L 39 - 117 01
AST (SGOT) 29 IU/L 0 - 40 01
ALT (SGPT) 24 IU/L 0 - 44 01

Testosterone, Free+Total LC/MS:
Testosterone, Total, LC/MS 1173.4 ng/dL 348.0 - 1197.0 02
Free Testosterone(Direct) 40.2 High pg/mL 9.3 - 26.5 02
Estradiol, Sensitive 8.5 pg/mL 8.0 - 35.0 02

If you don't want to read all that just skip to the testosterone and estrogen levels. Everything else (meaning the CBC and CMP) is in normal range.

Took this blood test July 27th, which was 1 week after my last pin. I am doing pct soon. I still feel like shit and still feel depressed. So I see that the total test dropped down to around 1100 (which was expected since it was 1 week after my last pin.) And I also noticed my estrogen dropped down to 8.5. Which means my bumping up my arimidex to .5 eod seemed to be working and not bunk. So even with the estrogen low, I still feel depressed. Why is that?

I am running out of ideas here.. maybe it was my free test? Since its really the only thing out of range on my bw? Is it possible its my free test causing my depression? I just don't get it..

Does anyone have any ideas?

[saucerking]

Anyone???

[saucerking]

Bump

Still trying to figure out wtf is wrong with me. Any help would be appreciated..

[numbere]

Correlation does not imply causation.

Just because you were on cycle doesn't mean that's what lead to your depression.

There are an endless amount of possibilities that can cause depression.

Maybe you need to make some life changes and/or get some therapy.

[hammerheart]

Bump

Still trying to figure out wtf is wrong with me. Any help would be appreciated..

Good luck, I have been looking for a valid explanation for the last two years and found none. I'm even at a TRT amount.

You better accept it as a physiologic limit and stay away from aas; as for your cycle, start HCG and quit it now.

[saucerking]

Correlation does not imply causation.

Just because you were on cycle doesn't mean that's what lead to your depression.

There are an endless amount of possibilities that can cause depression.

Maybe you need to make some life changes and/or get some therapy.

It was 100% my cycle that caused it....

I never had depression before in my entire life. Nothing has changed at all except for the fact that I started a cycle. 6 weeks into the cycle, and I start getting the worst depression I ever felt in my life. It's obviously the cycle.

But I am starting to feel a bit better. Maybe the estrogen needed time to go back to normal and I just had to wait. Maybe increased test causes depression for me. Idk but it's def something to do with the cycle

Good luck, I have been looking for a valid explanation for the last two years and found none. I'm even at a TRT amount.

You better accept it as a physiologic limit and stay away from aas; as for your cycle, start HCG and quit it now.

I'm not staying away from it. I will do pct now and try again in a couple months.

[hammerheart]

It was 100% my cycle that caused it....

I never had depression before in my entire life. Nothing has changed at all except for the fact that I started a cycle. 6 weeks into the cycle, and I start getting the worst depression I ever felt in my life. It's obviously the cycle.

But I am starting to feel a bit better. Maybe the estrogen needed time to go back to normal and I just had to wait. Maybe increased test causes depression for me. Idk but it's def something to do with the cycle



I'm not staying away from it. I will do pct now and try again in a couple months.

In two months? I'm not into cycles but I doubt even full recover is possible in such short period of time.

What do you expect anyway? It won't be any different.

[Proximal]

Question if I may - sorry to get personal, but there's a point. Is the wife 100% supportive of the decision to use AAS?

[ghettoboyd]

I'm thinking along the same lines as you that he feels guilty about doing it with the depression being about his high expectations not panning out and the damage he may be causing to himself for nothing in the end...just a thought...I just dosent make sense that something the op was so exited and determined to do caused depression...there has to be more to it I agree...

[Proximal]

I'm thinking along the same lines as you that he feels guilty about doing it with the depression being about his high expectations not panning out and the damage he may be causing to himself for nothing in the end...just a thought...I just dosent make sense that something the op was so exited and determined to do caused depression...there has to be more to it I agree...

Exactly.

[hammerheart]

? He's 26 and never mentioned a wife.

I'm thinking along the same lines as you that he feels guilty about doing it with the depression being about his high expectations not panning out and the damage he may be causing to himself for nothing in the end...just a thought...I just dosent make sense that something the op was so exited and determined to do caused depression...there has to be more to it I agree...

Androgens can trigger depression for some, it's also my personal experience with TRT. It's not the sad kind of depression, rather a lethargic feeling, consisting of drowsiness, fatigue, weakness and poor motivation.

[ghettoboyd]

? He's 26 and never mentioned a wife.



Androgens can trigger depression for some, it's also my personal experience with TRT. It's not the sad kind of depression, rather a lethargic feeling, consisting of drowsiness, fatigue, weakness and poor motivation.

I never mentioned anything about a wife either...

[saucerking]

In two months? I'm not into cycles but I doubt even full recover is possible in such short period of time.

What do you expect anyway? It won't be any different.

Well the general rule is Time on + PCT=Time off. I've been on for about 6 weeks now, 2 weeks of no pins, then 4 weeks of pct. So I need about 3 months off. So yeah that's what I meant by couple lol

And you don't know if it will be any different. Maybe a change of brands may do the trick. Maybe my body will adjust to it. Who knows but it's definitely worth a try. I'm not giving up on them just yet

Question if I may - sorry to get personal, but there's a point. Is the wife 100% supportive of the decision to use AAS?

Show me where I said I'm married please.

And even if I was.... what on earth would my wife have to do with my situation? I wouldn't even tell my wife I was using if I was married tbh.

I'm thinking along the same lines as you that he feels guilty about doing it with the depression being about his high expectations not panning out and the damage he may be causing to himself for nothing in the end...just a thought...I just dosent make sense that something the op was so exited and determined to do caused depression...there has to be more to it I agree...

No.... not even close.

? He's 26 and never mentioned a wife.



Androgens can trigger depression for some, it's also my personal experience with TRT. It's not the sad kind of depression, rather a lethargic feeling, consisting of drowsiness, fatigue, weakness and poor motivation.

Yes this^ thank you

I never mentioned anything about a wife either...

Obviously he's not talking to you lol

[numbere]

OP you make a thread asking for opinions of why your depressed.

Then when members give there opinions you you either shoot them down or get defensive.

You should just PM bizzarro if that's the only person with whom you want to correspond.

I wish you the best of luck and hope you feel better.

[hammerheart]

I don't really have anything to add... get off cycle, restart, and keep us updated - I'm curious to see whether "depression" fades away once recovered.

[Proximal]

Hey, sincerely very sorry to have wasted my time offering a possible suggestion.

Even if you aren't married or in a serious relationship, to not be able to even speculate how the significant other plays a role in this, suggests to me that you are a moron.

Best wishes, hope you feel better - not really.

[saucerking]

OP you make a thread asking for opinions of why your depressed.

Then when members give there opinions you you either shoot them down or get defensive.

You should just PM bizzarro if that's the only person with whom you want to correspond.

I wish you the best of luck and hope you feel better.

I wasn't defensive or shot anyone down lol

And thank you I appreciate it

I don't really have anything to add... get off cycle, restart, and keep us updated - I'm curious to see whether "depression" fades away once recovered.

Will do

Hey, sincerely very sorry to have wasted my time offering a possible suggestion.

Even if you aren't married or in a serious relationship, to not be able to even speculate how the significant other plays a role in this, suggests to me that you are a moron.

Best wishes, hope you feel better - not really.

That wasn't a suggestion. You asked if my "wife" was supportive of AAS
use lol.

That would have absolutely nothing to do with my depression even if I did actually have a wife/girlfriend. It's not like if they disapproved of it I would start feeling all depressed lmao.

It's 110% due to the cycle and change of hormones. It's got absolutely nothing to do with anything else going in my life or any people in my life.

Thanks for trying to help anyways

[ghettoboyd]

^^^with all that said brother why do you think you can try it again and things will be different next time?...if you truly believe that's the culprit of your depression you have already set yourself up to fail...maybe steroids are not for you...good luck...