Tbol and winstrol cycle advice for a 18 year old?

**gangen** · 07-28-2016, 02:41 AM

Thinking about going Tbol and Winstrol only for 4 weeks 20mg each. I have heard of people getting great results from a tbol and win cycle. I already talked to my doctor about it and of course he said that he do not recommend me doing this, but he also said I should not take any PCT or extra 'recovery steroids ' after my cycle is done. What do you think about that ?

Also would just like to know what you think about this kind of cycle, and advice is much appreciated

**Scorpion0922** · 07-28-2016, 07:37 AM

An oral only cycle is a disaster.
Taking 2 orals @ once is a huge disaster.
NO ONE who's 18 should even think about taking anabolics.

**spiels** · 07-28-2016, 07:42 AM

An oral only cycle seems like you're asking for unnecessary liver strain. Also this is just my opinion but: PCT is extremely important IMO.

**Kyle1337** · 07-28-2016, 07:54 AM

Want to hear the best advice you'll ever hear? Do not cycle until age 25+. You are to young. Don't screw your life up for a dumb mistake.

**ScotchGuard02** · 07-28-2016, 07:56 AM

Tbol + Winstrol 20mg/ed for 4 weeks? I think you'll get some gains but it won't be "great". The dosage is a little low. The issue isn't the low gains. To me, the issue is that those orals are harsh on your liver and it could affect your future production of natural Testosterone in your body. If your body stops producing Testosterone or slows down the natural production of Testosterone you'll run into all sorts of problems. You're 18, you should be jumping anything with skirts. When your Testosterone level drops you'll lose your libido and/or your erections won't happen or is may be weak and limp. I've read too many young guys lamenting of sexual dysfunctions because they cycled too young. The bottom line is that it is your choice. Taking AAS at your age, especially a poor one which is orals without exogenous Testosterone, you're playing with fire. It like Russian roulette. You might have a great cycle or you might be one of those many guys that'll list "help my dick won't work!" posts. My advice would be to browse the diet/supplement/training forums and train hard until you're 25 or so.

**gangen** · 07-28-2016, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02

Tbol + Winstrol 20mg/ed for 4 weeks? I think you'll get some gains but it won't be "great". The dosage is a little low. The issue isn't the low gains. To me, the issue is that those orals are harsh on your liver and it could affect your future production of natural Testosterone in your body. If your body stops producing Testosterone or slows down the natural production of Testosterone you'll run into all sorts of problems. You're 18, you should be jumping anything with skirts. When your Testosterone level drops you'll lose your libido and/or your erections won't happen or is may be weak and limp. I've read too many young guys lamenting of sexual dysfunctions because they cycled too young. The bottom line is that it is your choice. Taking AAS at your age, especially a poor one which is orals without exogenous Testosterone, you're playing with fire. It like Russian roulette. You might have a great cycle or you might be one of those many guys that'll list "help my dick won't work!" posts. My advice would be to browse the diet/supplement/training forums and train hard until you're 25 or so.

I agree with everything you just said, the thing is, im impatient. I've been weight lifting for 2 years and did other sports before that. My diet is great and i have a pretty lean physique. I just want to put on some mass and while not increasing my bodyfat too much and after reading lots of forum posts and articles I figured that a tbol and winstrol cycle would probably be my best go.

**InternalFire** · 07-28-2016, 01:50 PM

your best go is education and nutrition, sorry to burst your bubble kid but one day you will grow up and because youre impatient now, you'll probably be closer to impotent then. Its risky business what you're about to do, but trust me, you wanna study science out of this shit before you hit the floor with your decisions and actions, its not for kids, so please be a man and man-up, respect yourself little more and give yourself some time learning about this shit. You dont just go fly the plane and learn after, that's how serious this gets

**songdog** · 07-28-2016, 03:02 PM

18 yrs old plus a oral only isnt a good mix.But do wat you got to do in about 10 years you will know if you had any damage.But it can come sooner.There is a price to pay for everything we do.There is no such thing as a free lunch.So if you dont listen now be ready to pay later.

**Scorpion0922** · 07-28-2016, 08:11 PM

If you're impatient then this is not for you.

**ingerandtimb** · 07-29-2016, 02:04 PM

Don't think, just listen. Do not begin aas use for another 7 years. Girls your age don't give a shit about your muscles. Everyone is utterly different after high school and again after college. Focus on school, good health, how to meet and attract the right girls, and play sports. Forget about steroids .

**bass** · 07-29-2016, 02:37 PM

18 year old organs are still fragile, these types of orals will damage your liver and possibly kidneys, also will hinder your endocrine system. take the advice given to you and you will not regret it. here is some basic read to start with,

The Young and Steroids