Short vs long cycles

**Sfla80** · 09-11-2016, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by Cuz

About 12 weeks was max. I didnt always follow time on equals time off

Cuz wanted to ask.

Can't remember if u said u were still on cruise dose or not.

But definitely if not. How r u feeling now that u been off for so ling. When was your last bloods done? How did they look?

**NACH3** · 09-12-2016, 07:21 AM

Marcus... I used to run all short esters but now I realize I respond much better to long esters...

on long esters I'll front load a wk then return to my normal blast dose of T... I love high T as opposed to low T and high Nandrolone or Tren ... I find myself w/long esters to start showing size

**Cuz** · 09-12-2016, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Sfla80

Cuz wanted to ask.

Can't remember if u said u were still on cruise dose or not.

But definitely if not. How r u feeling now that u been off for so ling. When was your last bloods done? How did they look?

Pm me brother

**Paul Mr Universe** · 09-15-2016, 06:19 AM

Personally prefer 12 weeks , if source good within one week you see noticeable differance

**marcus300** · 10-01-2016, 03:49 AM

Originally Posted by NACH3

Marcus... I used to run all short esters but now I realize I respond much better to long esters...

on long esters I'll front load a wk then return to my normal blast dose of T... I love high T as opposed to low T and high Nandrolone or Tren... I find myself w/long esters to start showing size

Yes that's right some prefer longer esters but respond better to shorter cycles, front loading is an option or run a high dose then swap last few weeks with a short ester so pct can start straight away. Many ways to run long esters in a short cycle but usually for someone who hasn't got a lot of cycles under their belt I recommend using shorter esters in a short cycle.

**mietek** · 10-01-2016, 06:31 AM

I did bunch short cycles but it does not seem to give me any serious gains. I prefer longer cycles.

**KINGKONG** · 10-01-2016, 03:37 PM

Marcus, my body quits responding the same after 6-8 weeks on the same compounds..what if you were to run test base throughout and switch the other compounds halfway through?like test dbol deca first half and test tren and winni second?you think it would work well or do you think just running one and then coming off then running the next would work better?anybody chime in if you have experience with this kind of cycle..

**marcus300** · 10-02-2016, 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by KINGKONG

Marcus, my body quits responding the same after 6-8 weeks on the same compounds..what if you were to run test base throughout and switch the other compounds halfway through?like test dbol deca first half and test tren and winni second?you think it would work well or do you think just running one and then coming off then running the next would work better?anybody chime in if you have experience with this kind of cycle..

Yeah ive swapped and changed compounds up after a certain amount of weeks and you do get some added gains but also for me I get more sides and trust me sides are something in the long run you want to keep at a minimum, so for me swapping gear half way through to try and get a bit more gains (because it wasnt life changing gains) but the sides would increase dramatically isn't something I would do. I got more size, less gains and a lot more mass and serious muscle from shorter cycles, also using priming and other little tricks,

**numbere** · 10-02-2016, 02:56 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

... also using priming and other little tricks,

Priming is such an overlooked technique.

A good prime followed by a short blast will give shocking results.

Imo it's better to spend time designing a pre cycle prime then agonizing over what new compounds to try.

**ilift2addyears2m** · 10-02-2016, 03:18 AM

I personally think that small doses are best allowing you be on longer is the way to go. I also say to keep it simple meaning Test plus one compound such as Test n Dbol , Test no Deca , etc. Tren really won't help unless your bodyfat is already low

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**ilift2addyears2m** · 10-02-2016, 03:19 AM

What brands you using?

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**Irondoc** · 10-03-2016, 12:17 AM

I always stick to medium range 8-10 weeks, but i usually only use the short acting esters. Oh, and Var . . . I love me some var.

**marcus300** · 10-03-2016, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by numbere

Priming is such an overlooked technique.

A good prime followed by a short blast will give shocking results.

Imo it's better to spend time designing a pre cycle prime then agonizing over what new compounds to try.

Very true

**AR's King Silabolin** · 10-03-2016, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Yeah ive swapped and changed compounds up after a certain amount of weeks and you do get some added gains but also for me I get more sides and trust me sides are something in the long run you want to keep at a minimum, so for me swapping gear half way through to try and get a bit more gains (because it wasnt life changing gains) but the sides would increase dramatically isn't something I would do. I got more size, less gains and a lot more mass and serious muscle from shorter cycles, also using priming and other little tricks,

Some say you can lower the doses when changing compounds and defeat sides that way and stil gain more compared to not changing.

Like; 25 mg dbol and 25 mg anadrol will give less sides and more gains than 75 mg anadrol.

**LymeLyte** · 10-07-2016, 11:11 PM

go hard or go home I rekon, I always do 12 week cycles

**marcus300** · 10-08-2016, 04:18 AM

Originally Posted by Silabolin

Some say you can lower the doses when changing compounds and defeat sides that way and stil gain more compared to not changing.

Like; 25 mg dbol and 25 mg anadrol will give less sides and more gains than 75 mg anadrol.

What the fuck are you on about, get dieting and forget about abusing drugs all the time

**AR's King Silabolin** · 10-08-2016, 05:49 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

What the fuck are you on about, get dieting and forget about abusing drugs all the time

Bad sleep last night mate?

**Tlolec the toilet** · 10-08-2016, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

What is your preference?

Do you start to respond half around the 5-6 weeks mark and grow until the cycle ends at around 12-14 weeks?

Or do you respond straight away and grow and gains slow and stop after 6-7 and any continuation is pointless?

Also, are you one of these guys who grows on cycle and loses it all after the cycle ends?

Do you prefer a good solid 12 week cycle or a shorter solid cycle around 6 weeks ish

I'd say judging from my last cycle and the ones before it, i'd say...

1. response time started at week 3 and peaked at 5, as the cycle progressed things just got better all the way until the end. in the past, before i began eating truly clean and counting calories, as long as i keep eating i could gain weight and get stronger pretty fast. Granted, it definitely wasn't all muscle, (water and fat) but that should be obvious to most that know a thing or two. right now i'm putting my calories back to their normal levels and i'll go from there.

i seem to be able to retain what i've built so far. that would mean i could build that with my genetics then...

i like a 12 - 13 week cycle