First Cycle...Test, DECA, Dbol

**Leviathandreams** · 10-25-2016, 11:34 AM

I'll be starting my first cycle soon pending bloodwork and a few missing supplies. Itll be a 16 week Test, DECA ,Dbol cycle. I have 300mg/ml Test, 300mg/ml DECA, and a 50 pack of 20mg Dbol.(I think those are correct I'm at work so I'm going off memory) Along with Arimidex 1mg 50 pack, and Hcg 10,000iu for on cycle support. Nolva and clomid for pct. I'm 24 and have a few years lifting experience and experience cutting down. Not to a competition ready body but to a visible 6 pack. Right now I weigh 217 about 17% bf. I was at 204 and about 13% bf but I had hamstring injury and I gained some weight during the time off. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. My body responds very quickly to exercise so I'm excited to see what this will do.

**Livinlean** · 10-25-2016, 11:40 AM

You don't need deca on a first cycle. Recovery from deca is extremely hard which will make it harder for you to retain your gains post cycle.

Take a read My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

What is your height?

**Leviathandreams** · 10-25-2016, 12:56 PM

But will the hcg on cycle help enough to where I can or is it really that bad. I'm 5'11 sorry I left that out.

**Leviathandreams** · 10-25-2016, 01:01 PM

I was planning 300 test ex2, 300 DECA x1 a week and the Dbol I'm not to sure if I should do 40 a day for 3 weeks or 25 a day for 6 .

**Mr.BB** · 10-25-2016, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by Leviathandreams

I was planning 300 test ex2, 300 DECA x1 a week and the Dbol I'm not to sure if I should do 40 a day for 3 weeks or 25 a day for 6 .

Have you read the link Livinlean posted for you?

**Nephets** · 10-25-2016, 01:05 PM

also, if you start out with test, deca , and dbol and you run into a situation where you are having bad sides, you wont know which compound is causing it. start with test and see how your body reacts to it. Don't be in a rush to over complicate things.

**ghettoboyd** · 10-25-2016, 01:08 PM

I'm going to sound like a parrot here but you first cycle should be test only...if you do deca and d-bol how are you going to know what is causing the sides for you...which one do you cut back or stop using to alleviate them...think about it...

**Vash the Stampede** · 10-25-2016, 02:36 PM

Too much bro, too much. Drop the deca and dbol . Learn how to cycle with Test first. You need to focus on correct AI dosage determined by mid cycle blood work, also 250iu of HCG x 2 per week, and a solid PCT of nolvadex and clomid.

**Leviathandreams** · 10-25-2016, 03:23 PM

That's why I got the hcg 10000, and I have nolva and clomid for post, but I suppose I could drop the DECA and Dbol , but that would have been a waste of money. I've done one oral cycle before but I didnt post it because I didnt want to get flamed. I did epi, superdrol and max lmg, for 6 weeks and did nolva and clomid post. Results were okay and I didnt get any sides. The only thing may have been too much clomid cause I felt like shit for like 2 weeks. I guess I got ahead of myself and already purchased everything. I figured I would do the ai and .5 EOD or and I was going to dose the hcg at 250 twice a week. Test at 300x2 DECA at 300x2 and the Dbol at 40mg a day for either 3 weeks or 20mg a day for 6. Thank you for all your responses I understand you want to save the newcomers from health issues and headaches later on down the road. I did read the link livinlean posted. My diet and workouts are good to go, I'm a little over on the recommended bf but I do lose fat rather quickly. Other than that I see I should just run test by itself. The way I thought of it was go big or go home. I didn't want to keep on cycle after cycle. I wanted to do one every other year or so because I know I'm not at my genetic potential I just wanted a kickstart, but after reading your comments I see DECA has the possibility to shut me down completely and then I would have to keep on using.

**Vash the Stampede** · 10-25-2016, 03:46 PM

If I can share one single lesson with you it would be this....

More is not always better.

Keep the deca and dbol for cycle number 4 or 5. The stuff stays good for months or even up to a year.

**songdog** · 10-25-2016, 04:50 PM

You got some good advice here I hope you are wise enough to follow it.And you can always use the Deca and Dbol in a later cycle.So you didnt waste a thing.And while you did do a few oral cycles.You dont know how your body will react too test.And just beacuse you run HCG and do a pct.That doesn't guarantee your system will come back 100%.You may still suffer the consequences of running oral cycles only.And that can take up to 10yrs down the road.Good luck Bro!

**kelkel** · 10-25-2016, 06:49 PM

Just stash your deca and dbol in a drawer for future use. It'll be good for years in most cases....just keep an eye out for kids and dogs getting unusually large in your neighborhood. If so, check your stash....

The shelf life of Deca Durabolin , unless otherwise specified, is five to seven years.Deca Durabolin must be stored at a controlled room temperature of 20° to 25°C (68° to 77°F) with excursions permitted to 15° to 30°C (59° to 86°F) and kept away from unauthorized use, pets, sunlight, moisture, and children.