Deca Vs EQ BEST MASS Builder

**Jonbana** · 11-28-2016, 09:47 AM

getting my next cycle planned after being on here for a while and asking around I've changed my thoughts already

first i was set on doing Deca test finishing with tren 20-22weeks total
now
deca test only 12-14 weeks

ive done deca before and tren before massive results with deca but lost a lot cause of the water retention ,

now I never tried EQ before it seems appealing but looks like deca still the best and strongest MASS builder

SO for mass building skys the limited

I will Also kick start the cycle with a oral

Test/Deca
Test/EQ
Test/Tren
or
any other combinations you recommend? I want to keep my gains once getting back to TRT

Tren I was pretty happy with but felt like deca did a lot more for me

**ScotchGuard02** · 11-28-2016, 10:36 AM

I've run Test/Deca +EQ blend. I just mix the Deca & EQ in a large vial along with the test so I can just make one injection. Test I run at 500mg/wk and the Deca/EQ I run at about 400mg/wk.

**kolaking** · 11-28-2016, 11:00 AM

Deca is a pretty good mass builder. EQ is mainly used for cutting, but it has it's place in bulking as it increases appetite for some people who have issues packing their face with food and helps increase strength. It's a slow solid muscle builder, which is why it's mainly reserved for cutting cycles prepping for shows. It works best for those who are already very lean. I use it sometimes at 400mg a week in bulking. For cutting I'll usually pair it with Var, masteron , test and Winny. Have you read all the hormone profiles on the main page? I would go with Dbol or Anadrol combined with the Deca/ test for a bulking run. 12 weeks on all but the Orals...6 weeks for those...8 if you want to push it a little. Good luck!

**Jonbana** · 11-28-2016, 11:44 AM

yeah that's what im thinking

Dbol 50mg /day
Deca 600mg wk
Test 800mg wk

dosage still up in the air

keep it simple and sweet

I could go lower just not sure

deca 400
test 600

but rather be over kill than underkill

**Mr.BB** · 11-28-2016, 01:18 PM

EQ is only good to increase blood red cell MASS. Useless, if you are not a cyclist.

**TestoSuper** · 11-28-2016, 04:37 PM

never tried EQ, I tried deca a few times and it is great for bulking and increase new tissue ... reading comments and researches I suggest you Deca for bulking.

**Obs** · 11-28-2016, 04:47 PM

Eq does not enter the bulk game. Cutter and vascularity increase only. Make you veiny. Lots call it useless.

**jstone** · 11-28-2016, 04:48 PM

The only thing eq did was make me vascular, due to a raise in rbc and blood pressure. If you held a lot of water using decca you could try npp. Lots of people claim they dont hold as much water using npp.

**michael30** · 11-28-2016, 05:58 PM

Agree that EQ is useless except for appetite and vascularity. So I would say deca . One thing to keep in mind as a side effect of deca is anorgasmia( difficulty, or inability to achieve orgasm) it happened to me. It's not the end of the world, but it can get frustrating and definitely screws with your partners mental state.

**kelkel** · 11-28-2016, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by Jonbana

but rather be over kill than underkill

That's always the quickest route to issues. Guys thinking they always need more is way to prevalent. Keep it simple and work on training and nutrition for lasting results.

**Obs** · 11-28-2016, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by michael30

Agree that EQ is useless except for appetite and vascularity. So I would say deca. One thing to keep in mind as a side effect of deca is anorgasmia( difficulty, or inability to achieve orgasm) it happened to me. It's not the end of the world, but it can get frustrating and definitely screws with your partners mental state.

I currently have that. Kinda love it. She gets off a lot more often than I do and it makes me look like the king. It is frustrating sometimes. Hope it doesn't get worse lol

**Mr.BB** · 11-28-2016, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by michael30

Agree that EQ is useless except for appetite and vascularity. So I would say deca. One thing to keep in mind as a side effect of deca is anorgasmia( difficulty, or inability to achieve orgasm) it happened to me. It's not the end of the world, but it can get frustrating and definitely screws with your partners mental state.

Originally Posted by Obspowerstroke

I currently have that. Kinda love it. She gets off a lot more often than I do and it makes me look like the king. It is frustrating sometimes. Hope it doesn't get worse lol

Both of you need cabergoline, to lower prolactin.

**Obs** · 11-28-2016, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

Both of you need cabergoline, to lower prolactin.

it's on the way from india.

**Ashop** · 11-28-2016, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02

I've run Test/Deca+EQ blend. I just mix the Deca & EQ in a large vial along with the test so I can just make one injection. Test I run at 500mg/wk and the Deca/EQ I run at about 400mg/wk.

The DECA /EQ is actually a very popular combo with a lot of the guys I work with.
I know guys running 400mg wk EQ/ 400mg wk DECA with exceptional results.

**michael30** · 11-28-2016, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

Both of you need cabergoline, to lower prolactin.

The odd thing is it did not seem to help me one bit. But I did not get bloods drawn for prolactin. So I don't know if I was taking enough or where my levels were. So it was just guess work. If I run deca again I will be getting prolactin checked.

**michael30** · 11-28-2016, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by Obspowerstroke

I currently have that. Kinda love it. She gets off a lot more often than I do and it makes me look like the king. It is frustrating sometimes. Hope it doesn't get worse lol

Ya it's fun for the marathons, but for me it got old. I hope you don't have my issue, it continued for quite awhile after my cycle ended if I remember correctly. But hopefully the cabergaline will take care of it.

**powerliftmike** · 11-29-2016, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

EQ is only good to increase blood red cell MASS. Useless, if you are not a cyclist.

That's the main thing I have noticed is the boost in cardio capacity. This can increases BP and vascularity as well. It has tended to bump my appetite, at least when I ran it without anti-estrogens. It is pretty poor overall. I dont even consider it a cutting drug as it aromatizes. Mast and tren hands down best for cutting. Winny good too, but I cant use the stuff (joint injuries). EQ is rather useless, and if you truly want to boost RBCs...anadrol is the king [unless you go the EPO route].