Second Cycle advice

**hardroad** · 03-05-2017, 06:58 AM

I have just completed my first cycle.
12 Weeks Test E @ 500mg PW
pinned on a Monday and Thursday with Dbol @ 20mg ED weeks 1-4.
Really impressed with my overall strength and body composition results. 2 weeks after my last pin I almost feel better..... not sure how and I'm lifting well, keeping the weight on and actually trimming some BF, looks like possible water weight.
Being only 70kg starting and ending at 79 I'm happy with this.

What would be a logical second cycle?
I'm gong to hold off around 6 months but would like some input/ideas.
I'm not keen to go too hard on multiple compounds so I was thinking another Test E based cycle perhaps without the Dbol but maybe Deca may be good for bulking.

Opinions from the old school cyclers from experience would be great.

Cheers

**Mr. Small** · 03-05-2017, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by hardroad

I have just completed my first cycle.
12 Weeks Test E @ 500mg PW
pinned on a Monday and Thursday with Dbol @ 20mg ED weeks 1-4.
Really impressed with my overall strength and body composition results. 2 weeks after my last pin I almost feel better..... not sure how and I'm lifting well, keeping the weight on and actually trimming some BF, looks like possible water weight.
Being only 70kg starting and ending at 79 I'm happy with this.

What would be a logical second cycle?
I'm gong to hold off around 6 months but would like some input/ideas.
I'm not keen to go too hard on multiple compounds so I was thinking another Test E based cycle perhaps without the Dbol but maybe Deca may be good for bulking.

Opinions from the old school cyclers from experience would be great.

Cheers

Same as first one

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 03-05-2017, 09:03 AM

Did you run a PCT?

**charger69** · 03-05-2017, 09:54 AM

Did you take an AI? Did you ever get the bw you were previously talking about?
I would do the same cycle. The only thing that I would add is hCG and an AI if you didn't take the previous advice.

**PT1982** · 03-05-2017, 10:36 AM

If you're happy with the results of the first one, why change? Stay with what works until it don't work.....

**ScotchGuard02** · 03-05-2017, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by hardroad

I have just completed my first cycle.
12 Weeks Test E @ 500mg PW
pinned on a Monday and Thursday with Dbol @ 20mg ED weeks 1-4.
Really impressed with my overall strength and body composition results. 2 weeks after my last pin I almost feel better..... not sure how and I'm lifting well, keeping the weight on and actually trimming some BF, looks like possible water weight.
Being only 70kg starting and ending at 79 I'm happy with this.

What would be a logical second cycle?
I'm gong to hold off around 6 months but would like some input/ideas.
I'm not keen to go too hard on multiple compounds so I was thinking another Test E based cycle perhaps without the Dbol but maybe Deca may be good for bulking.

Opinions from the old school cyclers from experience would be great.

Cheers

Run Test only cycles for as long as your body responds well. Your body's super smart and will adapt to new compounds.

**songdog** · 03-05-2017, 01:29 PM

I have to agree with the above use the least amount of aas as long as you can.

**hardroad** · 03-05-2017, 05:43 PM

Thanks for the replies. Really appreciate the honest opinions and advice. Sorry forgot to mention Adex @ .25mg EOD. Slight acne increase and I did have my ankles swell right at the end but nothing too serious, I increased the Adex to .25 ED and drank a lot of water and it dropped off straight away. Bloods were taken but they are still out and I'll have to visit my doctor for results.
PCT for me is not an issues as I'm on TRT. I'd love to have to go on PCT but with no LH the basics aren't there to begin with.
Thanks again.
There's some really good knowledge out there.

**hardroad** · 03-06-2017, 06:53 AM

That all makes sense but also makes me wonder how many cycles some of the guys out there have done to get to the amount and variation of compounds that they run.
Taken all compounds will given different benefits and effects but at what point does a person decide to go into a really in depth cycle?
I take it years of on and off cycling ?
Also given the cost involved with a cycle given it may not work at all makes for an expensive waste of time not to mention the negative effects on blood pressure, cholesterol etc.

Thanks,