Cruise advice

[Chill1990]

Hey guys in a few weeks i will start a cruise of 250mg test e a week , 0,25 arimidex eod and hcg 500 every 5 days , my questions are , how beneficial is 50mg of clomid eod to prevent testicular atrophy , i know hcg is the best choice. how long can i go with blast and cruise ? and if a take acutane on cruise is that wise ? thx , all the best.

[Chicagotarsier]

Are you a TrT patient?

Bloodwork will determine when you "have to" come off if you are TrT.

Second substances add to the speed your bloodwork will reach "stop now" levels.

Bloodwork has shown when you shorten the time blasting or cycling (6 weeks) the recovery is easier and blood work tends to not get out of sorts. Marcus has some writeups on short cycling.

[Chill1990]

No i am not on trt , of course i will be getting bloodwork regularly ,soo you think substances like accutane are not best to do on trt ?

[Chill1990]

and what do you think about clomid on cycle for prevent testicular atrophy ?

[Marcus G]

and what do you think about clomid on cycle for prevent testicular atrophy ?

Clomid will have no effect on the testicular atrophy.

[songdog]

Cruising at 24 yrs old isnt a wise choice.

[Chill1990]

i am 27

[Chill1990]

what about acutane on cruise ? is that ok ? a low dose of 20mg will it be beneficial ? for moderate acne

[songdog]

i am 27

WOW! a whole 27 LOL bro if you ever plan to have a family I would drop this idea.

[kelkel]

Clomid will have no effect on the testicular atrophy.

Exactly ^^^. Your HCG will prevent atrophy in most cases.

Op, I think you'll find .25 mg's adex eod a bit much for that dose. Consider it's the average dose for a 500 mgs test cycle.

[Chill1990]

thx for the replay ,still no info on acutane )

[Chill1990]

What are your opinion on recovery after blast and cruise ? some recover well others not ,after i reach my goal i will do agresive pct. here is a good example of some one who after 1 year blast and cruise recoverd well , i am not saying this will be the case for everyone. Here is what he says in a forum :
Hi everyone.

Over the course of about 1 year I did about 3 heavy cycles and some cruising.
I did two cycles with Test and Tren , and one with Test, NPP, Masteron .

All my cycles involved Nandrolones.

Anyways, after discontinuing my last cruise which lasted for about 10 - 12 weeks, I decided no more. Time to give my body a rest.

I did a blast of HCG , 8 amps of 2000iu EOD a couple weeks before the esters cleared. Then I took a shot of GnRH at 100mcg. Then clomid at 100/100/50/50

I stopped taking Clomid 3 days ago.

My test levels as of this morning was 815 pg/ml
My lipids are PERFECT. My kidneys are PERFECT. Everything is within perfect range.

Now I will check out my levels again in 1 month to see if they hold.
I am so happy with my recovery, I can't believe I recovered from a 1 year blast cruise including 2 Tren cycles in just about 4-5 weeks with only losing about 5% overall gains.

I think maybe the GnRH helped, but who knows....

[Marcus G]

What are your opinion on recovery after blast and cruise ? some recover well others not ,after i reach my goal i will do agresive pct. here is a good example of some one who after 1 year blast and cruise recoverd well , i am not saying this will be the case for everyone. Here is what he says in a forum :
Hi everyone.

Over the course of about 1 year I did about 3 heavy cycles and some cruising.
I did two cycles with Test and Tren , and one with Test, NPP, Masteron .

All my cycles involved Nandrolones.

Anyways, after discontinuing my last cruise which lasted for about 10 - 12 weeks, I decided no more. Time to give my body a rest.

I did a blast of HCG , 8 amps of 2000iu EOD a couple weeks before the esters cleared. Then I took a shot of GnRH at 100mcg. Then clomid at 100/100/50/50

I stopped taking Clomid 3 days ago.

My test levels as of this morning was 815 pg/ml
My lipids are PERFECT. My kidneys are PERFECT. Everything is within perfect range.

Now I will check out my levels again in 1 month to see if they hold.
I am so happy with my recovery, I can't believe I recovered from a 1 year blast cruise including 2 Tren cycles in just about 4-5 weeks with only losing about 5% overall gains.

I think maybe the GnRH helped, but who knows....

You can't say that you're recovered (It's to early to tell) you need to wait 6-8 weeks and get blood test not just for total testosterone but free test, Estradiol, LH, FSH.

[Chill1990]

he update`d after 12 weeks test was at 450 and and after a few weeks slownly incrising

[Marcus G]

he update`d after 12 weeks test was at 450 and and after a few weeks slownly incrising

Please explain.

[Marcus G]

What are your opinion on recovery after blast and cruise ? some recover well others not ,after i reach my goal i will do agresive pct. here is a good example of some one who after 1 year blast and cruise recoverd well , i am not saying this will be the case for everyone. Here is what he says in a forum :
Hi everyone.

Over the course of about 1 year I did about 3 heavy cycles and some cruising.
I did two cycles with Test and Tren , and one with Test, NPP, Masteron .

All my cycles involved Nandrolones.

Anyways, after discontinuing my last cruise which lasted for about 10 - 12 weeks, I decided no more. Time to give my body a rest.

I did a blast of HCG , 8 amps of 2000iu EOD a couple weeks before the esters cleared. Then I took a shot of GnRH at 100mcg. Then clomid at 100/100/50/50

I stopped taking Clomid 3 days ago.

You stopped 3 days ago?

[Chill1990]

what i wrote is what a guy said about his experience with blast / cruise and recovery.

[Marcus G]

what i wrote is what a guy said about his experience with blast / cruise and recovery.

Alright well he hasn't recovered until he's had a blood test 6-8 weeks after discontinuing clomid and shows total and free T, estrogen, LH and FSH all in range

[DocToxin8]

And he says he took GnRH?
I'd be interested in what exactly he means by that.
There are several types of GnRH agonists, and leuprolide f.ex (LHRH agonist) is so powerful it desensitize the pituitary and is used in prostate cancer and to castrate rapists/child abusers.

Even so, let's just say everything is correct here.
The bloodwork is from when he still got SERMs in his system.
LH and FSH should be elevated at that point like Marcus said.

Is it possible to recover from a year long cruise/blast?
Sure it is, but it's not guaranteed.
Especially when you follow it with even more cycles.

I'd be done with children before doing such a thing.

[canadian77]

Is it possible to recover from a year long cruise/blast?
Sure it is, but it's not guaranteed.

I recovered from a year long blast/cruise. I started off with 1 dose of GnRH (Triptorelin) 100mcg and did an 8 week PCT with Clomid and Nolva. I was also on HCG throughout the blast/cruise.

So yes it is possible, but you will probably need a long PCT and constant blood work.

[BuddyGlove1]

I take 1 mg a week on trt.

[songdog]

i am 27

Still not a wise choice bro.