quality of steroids these days

**Heavyhitter5** · 06-14-2017, 07:47 PM

is it just me or it seems like getting your hands on really quality gear is a lot harder than it was 5 or even 10 years ago

**songdog** · 06-15-2017, 05:24 PM

No not ever been a problem.

**Heavyhitter5** · 06-16-2017, 02:47 PM

well I'm out of the loop after my gym closed down prob 7 years ago where I had all my connects. I re upped 2 times so far this spring. first was garbage with crazy pip. 2nd had fancy labels with only 6.5 ml in 10 ml bottles and was deff underdosed. now I'm waiting any day for pharm shit. fuck man

**Ashop** · 06-17-2017, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Heavyhitter5

is it just me or it seems like getting your hands on really quality gear is a lot harder than it was 5 or even 10 years ago

If you have a solid supplier good quality AAS shouldn't be a problem at all.

**Too-$mall** · 06-17-2017, 08:12 PM

ok, so say one is taking 600mg of test e per week and say their test levels come in at just over 4,000 even.

on a quality scale of 1 - 100, where does that steroid come in?

**guitarzan** · 06-17-2017, 08:26 PM

Never heard of a test being rated this way, will be interesting to hear what the smart folks say

**PT1982** · 06-17-2017, 08:51 PM

This is the first time I've ever heard of anything like this. Lol. Reminds me of an old man telling me the other day that weed has never been this good in the 55 years he's smoked it. Haha. If you have a good source, your never going to get low quality. You're also never going to get "super" quality. A good source provides an accurately dosed gear (as the label states) and not over dosed or underdosed. I would be equally as angry if it was over dosed rather than under dosed. They should provide an accurate description of what they provide on the label. Nothing more, nothing less.

**PT1982** · 06-17-2017, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by Too-$mall

ok, so say one is taking 600mg of test e per week and say their test levels come in at just over 4,000 even.

on a quality scale of 1 - 100, where does that steroid come in?

That's really impossible to know Small. No 2 people will have identical readings even with the same stuff. Peiple metabolize everything differently and blood tests couldn't verify the quaility (more specifically the dose), of the testosterone , only that it's not bunk.

**DocToxin8** · 06-18-2017, 06:31 AM

PT said it well.
For me, overdosed gear is just as bad as underdosed.
(At least most of the time, lol)
I want to know how much I'm using.

A friend of mine, or THE friend I have that use the biggest doses I've ever known anyone to use says the same.
His total AAS intake for a week is often at 7grams.
(Like one time it was 5grams T, 2 grams Deca )
And when he got overdosed shit he's suddenly use 10grams a week without knowing it, and that would give him migraines from hell.

Now, any normal person would get migraines from hell with 5grams of test a week, but this guy is special.

He also got a genetic mutation so he can't make aromatase,
and suffered from slightly low T and low sperm count before he started using.
(Look up aromatase defiency, really seldom in men, but happens)
And we wondered if that had anything to do with why he can tolerate such large doses.

And for the newbies; did he have greater muscles due to his insane dosages?
Nope, I'd accomplish the same results on 1-2G total AAS intake a week.
But this guy is also on a mix amphetamines (prescribed), and a whole lot other mood stabilizers. He makes me look healthy, mentally I mean.
That's why I love to talk to him; finally a guy I can say "dude, you need help!"
(And he can't reply; "dude, you are just as bad!" )

I've used AAS over a 20year timeframe.
Yes quality as a whole is a different ball game than before,
Much more pharmacy stuff on the street before.
Still, is it bad now? Not if you go to the right place.

There were counterfeits in the old days too though.
And there were no arimidex and such available to the common man,
mostly PCT was just some shots of HCG . And tapering the dose.

If you needed to get a dry look (reduce estrogen),
then just don't run test.
Use "dry" (non estrogenic) compounds without test and you'll look dry as hell without any AI, but you'll also feel like shit and its bad for your health too.

So in that way it's better now. More knowledge.
More compounds.

**PT1982** · 06-18-2017, 11:39 AM

I would like to meet this friend of your Doc! He sounds like a hoot!

**hammerheart** · 06-18-2017, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by DocToxin8

He also got a genetic mutation so he can't make aromatase,
and suffered from slightly low T and low sperm count before he started using.
(Look up aromatase defiency, really seldom in men, but happens)

Has he ever used exogenous estrogen?

**DocToxin8** · 06-18-2017, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by bizzarro

Has he ever used exogenous estrogen?

Nope, not to my knowledge.
But I think he's body's able to produce just a little estrogen by other pathways.
Also, I think these ultra high dosages of AAS he use actually fixes any defiency as such.
Funny guy. Remember he used to scratch his abdomen a lot.
Then I saw that he'd usually inject a couple of mls SubQ during the week as well. When you inject 4ml each day you need quite a lot of sites!

**Obs** · 06-19-2017, 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by DocToxin8

PT said it well.
For me, overdosed gear is just as bad as underdosed.
(At least most of the time, lol)
I want to know how much I'm using.

A friend of mine, or THE friend I have that use the biggest doses I've ever known anyone to use says the same.
His total AAS intake for a week is often at 7grams.
(Like one time it was 5grams T, 2 grams Deca )
And when he got overdosed shit he's suddenly use 10grams a week without knowing it, and that would give him migraines from hell.

Now, any normal person would get migraines from hell with 5grams of test a week, but this guy is special.

He also got a genetic mutation so he can't make aromatase,
and suffered from slightly low T and low sperm count before he started using.
(Look up aromatase defiency, really seldom in men, but happens)
And we wondered if that had anything to do with why he can tolerate such large doses.

And for the newbies; did he have greater muscles due to his insane dosages?
Nope, I'd accomplish the same results on 1-2G total AAS intake a week.
But this guy is also on a mix amphetamines (prescribed), and a whole lot other mood stabilizers. He makes me look healthy, mentally I mean.
That's why I love to talk to him; finally a guy I can say "dude, you need help!"
(And he can't reply; "dude, you are just as bad!" )

I've used AAS over a 20year timeframe.
Yes quality as a whole is a different ball game than before,
Much more pharmacy stuff on the street before.
Still, is it bad now? Not if you go to the right place.

There were counterfeits in the old days too though.
And there were no arimidex and such available to the common man,
mostly PCT was just some shots of HCG . And tapering the dose.

If you needed to get a dry look (reduce estrogen),
then just don't run test.
Use "dry" (non estrogenic) compounds without test and you'll look dry as hell without any AI, but you'll also feel like shit and its bad for your health too.

So in that way it's better now. More knowledge.
More compounds.

Dammit, I knew I should have ordered more. I'll be getting 250mg/ml +, I dont thing I care to shoot 50-70ml of 100mg/ml gear. That guy must spot inject his entire body!
"Oh shiiit! I forgot to shoot my jaw muscles!"
Lol!
Any gains Jack???
"Yeah uh... 5 lbs this week, but 2 of it is gear..."