Tbol and sides

[TRA]

Just wondering if anyone experiences any issues with tbol and what they are. It is a pretty mild oral but I ran it for 6 wks and it affected me a little mentally, just didn't feel good on it. Wasn't sure that was the issue but when I stopped at 6 wk within days it became apparent it was. Nothing horrific, just not the most fun I've had.

Also, I had a hard time eating while on it. Killed my appetite and made me feel full and bloated all the time. I tried forcing food to keep kcals up and would wake up almost sick at night. Also gave me really bad heartburn, even when taken with food.

I don't think I saw enough benefit when run with test/NPP to warrant taking again. Just wanted to hear what others have experienced.

[David LoPan]

You can get great gains on tbol. I like tren A better. You can take a PPI like Nexium (esomeprazole) or H2 blocker like Zantac (ranitidine) for the heartburn. But if you didn't use a full cycle before why go that way again?

[TRA]

You can get great gains on tbol. I like tren A better. You can take a PPI like Nexium (esomeprazole) or H2 blocker like Zantac (ranitidine) for the heartburn. But if you didn't use a full cycle before why go that way again?

I just didn't see the gains on the tbol tbh. I took a PPI but I don't like taking meds if I don't have to. Zantac had too much breakthrough.
I used with a full cycle - 6 wks tbol to kickstart, still running test/NPP.
I wouldn't put tren in the same class for me, haha, it DEFINITELY has some bang. Just thought I would give the oral a run. Maybe just isn't for me.

[Couchlock]

You know, a lot of posts lately regarding steroids giving a shitty unmotivated feeling.

BLOODWORK MID CYCLE!!

when estrogen and other "backseat" hormones are in check, aas give you such a great feeling, it should be illegal.

[TRA]

You know, a lot of posts lately regarding steroids giving a shitty unmotivated feeling.

BLOODWORK MID CYCLE!!

when estrogen and other "backseat" hormones are in check, aas give you such a great feeling, it should be illegal.

Yeah, I'm all over the labs. Everything in check, e2 right where I like it, prolactin good, liver elevated as expected at end of oral, blood good, no IGF-1 this time as GH not on board.

I haven't run tbol before. Feel great on test typically and npp of no consequence. Nothing like higher dose tren sides but the mental aspect was unexpected and a little weird. Good source. Maybe not just for me, dunno.

[Couchlock]

Yeah, I'm all over the labs. Everything in check, e2 right where I like it, prolactin good, liver elevated as expected at end of oral, blood good, no IGF-1 this time as GH not on board.

I haven't run tbol before. Feel great on test typically and npp of no consequence. Nothing like higher dose tren sides but the mental aspect was unexpected and a little weird. Good source. Maybe not just for me, dunno.

They were mental sides? What about physically?

But that. I,guess is a double edged sword, how can one feel great physically but mentally be all twisted up.

These drugs are weird, no?

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[TRA]

They were mental sides? What about physically?

But that. I,guess is a double edged sword, how can one feel great physically but mentally be all twisted up.

These drugs are weird, no?

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Yeah, and I'm not one to look for that kind of side. Some people have a lot of anxiety and really think about everything and how it affects them, but I'm pretty laid back in that regard. But this was really noticeable. Even my girlfriend said something about me seeming off a little, not laughing a lot, quiet, brooding.

Physically it tore my gut up. Couldn't eat a lot. Tried forcing clean proteins even I felt really full and bloated, even though I had hardly eaten all day. Couldn't do it. Today is day 5 after stopping and I have eaten half my weight in tuna, eggs and healthy carbs.
At least there is another 6 wks to enjoy the cycle feeling good.

Yeah, these things are weird. We'll what var does next time around. Glad I ordered lots of tbol ffs.

[Couchlock]

Yeah, and I'm not one to look for that kind of side. Some people have a lot of anxiety and really think about everything and how it affects them, but I'm pretty laid back in that regard. But this was really noticeable. Even my girlfriend said something about me seeming off a little, not laughing a lot, quiet, brooding.

Physically it tore my gut up. Couldn't eat a lot. Tried forcing clean proteins even I felt really full and bloated, even though I had hardly eaten all day. Couldn't do it. Today is day 5 after stopping and I have eaten half my weight in tuna, eggs and healthy carbs.
At least there is another 6 wks to enjoy the cycle feeling good.

Yeah, these things are weird. We'll what var does next time around. Glad I ordered lots of tbol ffs.

I wanted to try tbol.

Var was cool, even though Iran it Low dose for only 30 days at end of test cycle.

Strength was real good those 30 days, about a east 20% increase within 5 days

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[austinite]

I always use Ghrp2/Sermorelin for appetite. Works almost too well. Higher doses of test than usual is always recommended in my book when any steroid causes issues like you mention. But tbol is a great compound, probably one of my all time favorites. Basically Dbol without the water/E2 issues.

[TRA]

I always use Ghrp2/Sermorelin for appetite. Works almost too well. Higher doses of test than usual is always recommended in my book when any steroid causes issues like you mention. But tbol is a great compound, probably one of my all time favorites. Basically Dbol without the water/E2 issues.

Was running with test 500/NPP 400, which are still going. Do you think it might be the source? Had to use higher dose just to get any effects and I can't say that there was anything strength wise any sooner than I would have expected from NPP, as in, maybe wk 4-5 of 6 wks.

First I've heard anyone mention those peps specifici to appetite. Will def give it a try.

[charger69]

Just finished my first Tbol cycle to kickstart with test and Deca . First time running low test- 200 test and 600 deca. Gave the results I was looking for, bulking at 12-13% bf. I could never do that with dbol .
Started out at 40 mg/day and upped the Tbol to 60.
How long does everyone run Tbol. I stopped after 6 weeks however I have read that some people do it for the full cycle.


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[Ashop]

For myself speaking I get minimal to no sides from TBOL. I have always felt great while on it. Things affect people differently and if it doesn't agree with you then by all means cease the use. Sometimes it can be dosage related too.

[marcus300]

I stopped using TBOL because it really messed my stomach up and gave me appetite issues which is a big no no for me on cycle. I never really did much for me anyway kind of waste of time to be honest