TrenA/testp/mastp Gyno symptoms

**Chubbyman** · 01-09-2018, 03:26 AM

Im on TRT androgel 2 pumps daily

8 weekCycle
Pharmacom mix 2 1ml=
Test P 75mgs
Tren A 75mgs
Mast P 100mgs
Aromasin 12 mgs daily

4.5mls mix 2 weekly

I'm currently on 5th week on 8 week cycle. I'm experiencing gyno symptoms. Both nipples sore to touch. Left nipple is puffy. Even about 2 inches diameter out surrounding the nipple. I'm confused as to whether or not adding nolvadex will worsen my situation or help!?! All advice is appreciated!

**AlphaMindz** · 01-09-2018, 03:26 PM

Wow I'm surprised you're reacting so strongly to only 75 mgs of test daily, especially since you're on Aromasin as well. You're best bet to stop it in it's tracks is to run some letro and I would have it over nighted to minimize development of gyno tissue (unless you have a local source that you can get it from). At this early stage letro will more than likely shrink any lumps that have formed. Letro is very potent and is also known to cause a large estrogen rebound so to minimize this you want to slowly taper use while increasing your aromasin. Also, I would get bloodwork done so you can know exactly what kind of levels you're dealing with which will help you combat this in the future. Good luck.

**AlphaMindz** · 01-09-2018, 03:31 PM

Oh I just realized that what you're taking is a mix, so I would be willing to bet that there's way more test than 75mgs in it which means of course that it doesn't have one or more of the other hormones it claims to have. I havent heard of that company so it's not dig at them at all, but I personally stay away from mixes for precisely this reason. I like to know exactly what it is I'm taking and as accurate a dose as possible.

**Chubbyman** · 01-09-2018, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by AlphaMindz

Oh I just realized that what you're taking is a mix, so I would be willing to bet that there's way more test than 75mgs in it which means of course that it doesn't have one or more of the other hormones it claims to have. I havent heard of that company so it's not dig at them at all, but I personally stay away from mixes for precisely this reason. I like to know exactly what it is I'm taking and as accurate a dose as possible.

Yes. Im suprised too. Im very disappointed! Im planning on getting the Letro ordered asap. Hhow do you advise talking the letro? And should I add Nolva Ive heard it can be bad on Tren ?!?

**guitarzan** · 01-09-2018, 06:29 PM

First of all, the compounds you're taking are short esters and needs to be pinned at least 3 times a week. Have you ever done tren before? If not, 675 mg is a hefty dose for first time. I'm no expert on gyno, I've never had the problem, but I don't think letro is the way you wanna go. And why are you wasting your money on a gel if you gonna pin 675 mg of test?

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 01-09-2018, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by Chubbyman

Im on TRT androgel 2 pumps daily

8 weekCycle
Pharmacom mix 2 1ml=
Test P 75mgs
Tren A 75mgs
Mast P 100mgs
Aromasin 12 mgs daily

4.5mls mix 2 weekly

I'm currently on 5th week on 8 week cycle. I'm experiencing gyno symptoms. Both nipples sore to touch. Left nipple is puffy. Even about 2 inches diameter out surrounding the nipple. I'm confused as to whether or not adding nolvadex will worsen my situation or help!?! All advice is appreciated!

quite a bit of confusion in this thread.....

the blend he is taking is called "Pharmacon mix 2"
he is taking 4.5mls weekly (I am guessing 3 shots of 1.5ml...)

so he is getting 337.5mg of test weekly or 48.2mg daily,
and he is getting 337.5mg of tren weekly or 48.2mg daily,
and he is getting 450mg of mast weekly or 64.2mg daily.

He may also still be taking his Androgel daily which would add to his test.

**GearHeaded** · 01-09-2018, 07:21 PM

OP , your more then likely prolactin/progesterone sensitive . throwing a 19nor like Tren in there is probably what has caused prolactin induced gyno symptoms (which usually comes on when estrogen is still slightly elevated as well).

blood work will tell you if your prolactin is elevated. you may need to run a DA when you run a 19nor , so caber or prami (for prolactin), AND you may be gyno prone and also need to run a SERM like Nolva while on cycle as well.

**guitarzan** · 01-09-2018, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog

quite a bit of confusion in this thread.....

the blend he is taking is called "Pharmacon mix 2"
he is taking 4.5mls weekly (I am guessing 3 shots of 1.5ml...)

so he is getting 337.5mg of test weekly or 48.2mg daily,
and he is getting 337.5mg of tren weekly or 48.2mg daily,
and he is getting 450mg of mast weekly or 64.2mg daily.

He may also still be taking his Androgel daily which would add to his test.

I was assuming he's taking 4.5 twice a week

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 01-09-2018, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

I was assuming he's taking 4.5 twice a week

I am confused by his wording too.
I might still be wrong.

**AlphaMindz** · 01-10-2018, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog

quite a bit of confusion in this thread.....

the blend he is taking is called "Pharmacon mix 2"
he is taking 4.5mls weekly (I am guessing 3 shots of 1.5ml...)

so he is getting 337.5mg of test weekly or 48.2mg daily,
and he is getting 337.5mg of tren weekly or 48.2mg daily,
and he is getting 450mg of mast weekly or 64.2mg daily.

He may also still be taking his Androgel daily which would add to his test.

Wow I completely missed that.
WTF are you doing bro? How and why did you put this cycle together...no bueno man