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    Wanting to start my first cycle need help.

    Ok first off assume my stats are needed. I am

    Age-30
    Height-6’5”
    Weight-227
    Bf-25%
    Lifting-2 years
    Dieting-1 year

    Ok now help I need. My idea is that I am going to keep losing weight probably until I am under 18% bf. Once I reach that point I want to take Anavar at 30mg a day for 40 days and I need to know if it is important I take a pct and if so what pct and how much should I take.

    Also I understand that test is important to take with any cycle. My question on that would be do I really need it and If so could I get away with taking an oral test with the Anavar (assuming there is one)


    Right now I have 120 10 mg tabs of Anavar and I really don’t want it to go to waist.

    Also I want to take anadrol . I understand anadrol is for gaining mass but if there was any way I can work that in let me know. I’m not taking anything until I understand what I’m taking and the safest route possible.

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    Just to add one more thing, I am not familiar with abbreviations or acronyms so if you could explain things in the same manner you would explain it to someone who has never heard of anything I’d appreciate it.

    Also i understand that there are different types of test with different letters at the end, if someone could explain that I’d appreciate it

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    Your first cycle should be Test only with AI and HCG . Anavar only will just shut down your natural production of test.

    My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

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    You should look at steroid profiles here https://www.steroid.com/steroid_profiles.php

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    Damn, that about sums up most of
    My questions.

    One question though, if I were to start a test cycle should I wait until I was at 16% and start it while continuing to cut or should I get down to 13% and take it to bulk? Also it doesn’t really talk about injection sites.

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    Waste of time to shut down your system for a cut unless a competition is imminent. A first cycle should be about adding the most muscle possible. Just follow the Successful First Cycle thread. It works.
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    This is what I’ve gathered from that link. If someone could check it out and tell me if everything looks right I’d appreciate it. Also I don’t know what hcg is for or if hcg fertigyn is what I need. Also do you mix the hcg with the test or inject them separately? Do you use different syringes for each injection? What size syringe do you need?

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    6'5 225 and 25%bf leads be to believe you don't have much of a base and you really need to get the bf down prior to your cycle bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    6'5 225 and 25%bf leads be to believe you don't have much of a base and you really need to get the bf down prior to your cycle bro.
    Ya I addressed that in the original post. I’m just doing the research and gathering part until I am ready

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    Sounds like you have a phobia of needles or want to avoid injections by the fact you’re looking at orals and even wanted to find out about an oral Test? Just go straight Test for your first cycle.

    One thing I noted is the units of measurement in your notes are odd. HCG is measured in iu, so that’s correct. Test and other steroids are measured in mg. So you’re having 250mg of Test twice a week. How many “mL” that is will be determined by the concentration of your solution, if you get a Test 250mg per mL solution it’s easy, you inject 1mL twice a week.

    Test and HCG are injected separately. Easiest place for newbies to inject Test is in the glute (ass) in the top outer quadrant. Normally a 1.5” 23G needle will work best, 1” needles aren’t long enough to penetrate into the muscle sometimes. HCG is injected subcutaneously (into fat) usually in your stomach just to the side of your belly button. Use a 0.5” 27G needle for this, the HCG is so easy you will barely even feel the needle or injection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry2020 View Post
    Sounds like you have a phobia of needles or want to avoid injections by the fact you’re looking at orals and even wanted to find out about an oral Test? Just go straight Test for your first cycle.

    One thing I noted is the units of measurement in your notes are odd. HCG is measured in iu, so that’s correct. Test and other steroids are measured in mg. So you’re having 250mg of Test twice a week. How many “mL” that is will be determined by the concentration of your solution, if you get a Test 250mg per mL solution it’s easy, you inject 1mL twice a week.

    Test and HCG are injected separately. Easiest place for newbies to inject Test is in the glute (ass) in the top outer quadrant. Normally a 1.5” 23G needle will work best, 1” needles aren’t long enough to penetrate into the muscle sometimes. HCG is injected subcutaneously (into fat) usually in your stomach just to the side of your belly button. Use a 0.5” 27G needle for this, the HCG is so easy you will barely even feel the needle or injection.
    You can mix the HCG with test. I do it all the time. HCG is a water base and so a number of people do not recommend mixing it with an oil base. I have never had issues, but I usually mix it such that approx .2 ml is 250iu


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    Good info here, take their advice

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