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    Fina questions, ED or EOD???

    I am adding fina to my cycle for the last 4-5 weeks (depending on results). Im in the process of making my own right now.

    Ive planned on taking 75mg ED, but i wanted to get everyones opinion about maybe doing it differently (EOD??).

    Also this is my 1st cycle:
    1-10 500mg sust
    1-10 400mg deca
    6-10 or 11 Fina
    Do you think the doses are to high, should i go with 50mg a day, or will that even yeild results?

    I know some of you will say i dont need it for a first cycle but im hell bent on adding it. However i am prepared to cut it off if any sides show up.

    Last thing...should i inject before my workout or in the morning???

    All opinons are welcome, along with any tips!

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    Tren worked best for me at eod, but everybody reacts differently, if it's your first time using, try eod.......go with 75 and not 50, and you will love the results from tren bro, it's the best.......also I always injected before my workouts......about 2 hours before.....good luck bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColdStone
    However i am prepared to cut it off if any sides show up.
    Might as well cut it out now cause there will be some sides. I'd put money on it. Could be mild but they will be there. Also I would run the cycle longer and end on just fina and prop.

    1-10 deca 400mg/week
    1-9 sust 500mg/week
    9-14 fina 75mg ed or EOD
    9-14 prop 75mg ed

    Kinda complicated for a first cycle IMO but its the best way to run all the elements you want

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    What sides have hit you guys on fina and not other AS???

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    The only sides I have noticed is a little increased anger. As far as ed or eod, ed would be optimal. My argument against eod is that acetate has such a short half life that 24 hours after injection the tren levels have dropped drastically.

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    ED seems to be the verdict, ive been researching for about 3 hours now and thats what everyone has been getting the best results with.

    Bump for any other opinions........or anything fina related

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    There is a thread at gotfina or it might be here showing the blood levels in comparison to ed or eod injections at 75/150.
    As far as sides go, for me I had a slight agression issue, night sweats, cold like symptoms, small fevers, a warm tingly sensation( never mind that was something else ) the sides were not that bad and they did subside as I ran the fina longer.

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    I read on anohter board that if your using fina and deca , its' best to omit one or the other. I don't know why, jsut something i read a while back.

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    I prefer ED. I felt I had more sides EOD from the fluxuations. Use a 29g 1/2" insulin pin to inject with and ED injects will become a joke.

    Ive ran tren and deca together fine before. Just gotta know how your body reacts. I woudlnt recomend it till youve done both alone before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirk D.
    I read on anohter board that if your using fina and deca, its' best to omit one or the other. I don't know why, jsut something i read a while back.

    more than likely it has to do with prgesterone/prolactin side effects. both of these aas are known for this side. running them together is just asking for trouble imho.

    while deca is pretty mild when it comes to this, i think it shows up more with tren . but both together.......


    peace I4L

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    thats because they both cause progesterone related gyno... and both are infamous for keeping your sex drive down, or not getting wood...Thats just a chance im gonna take though, ive got test in my cycle so hopefully i wont get deca dick.

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    say hello to gyno..

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    So what do you use to avoid the prgesterone/prolactin side effects? Novla?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirk D.
    So what do you use to avoid the prgesterone/prolactin side effects? Novla?
    Anti-estrogen along with anti-prolactin such as Dostinex, or bromo

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    what about novla? I have no idea where to get either of those anti-e's. I just came off a cycle of deca /test. I noticed a little gyno, I used to use AS 15yrs ago,then got out of the lifting/into the jujutsu again. Anyway, making the change back over to lifting. I did get a little gyno a long time ago and after this cycle I noticed a little comming back. Got some fina to brew and wonding if novla will work? 8 weeks of test/fina.

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    nolva is an anti-e

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