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    Help with TRENsomnia

    Started a cycle two weeks ago

    weekly:
    400mg Sus
    300mg deca
    150mg tren E

    nothing unusual the first 2 weeks, upon the 4th pin, the next night I woke up every hour and in a pool of sweat.
    Side effects, presumably from the tren, hit me like a train, not going to be able to lose the next 10+ weeks of sleep like that.

    Furthermore, my glutes exploded with hives from lord knows what. Could have been the oil, the deca, the blends in the sus, the tren itself, too many variables to know for sure. Went to doctor for fear of cellulitus or paranoia of infection, diagnosis was just hives, take claritin, cold compress and benadryl topical ointment.

    I've since discontinued all 3 compounds (don't want to guess which gave me hives) and got a new vial of TEST E, unfortunately it's from the same UGL as all the other previous compounds, so hopefully that isn't the catalyst.

    Now I've simplified to 400mg/week TEST E and using delts as my sweet sweet butt checks recover from this unsightly rash.

    My question is, WHEN WILL THIS DAMN TRENSOMNIA WEAR OFF? Am I looking at like 2-3 more long nights or more because it was TREN E and not TREN ACE?? I only pinned 300mg total over the 2 weeks, but last night I sweat through 3 more t-shirts.

    Anyone have experience coming off tren premature and the timing of the sides wearing off? particularly Tren E. Been a rough start for me!

    thank you in advance!
    Last edited by UncleCurley; 04-30-2018 at 11:32 AM.

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    The sweating and insomnia's only part of the Tren sides. It's hard stuff but if you can bear through it, it gives good results. One of the reason I run Tren A is that it works fast and I can get out of it fast. If you can get your hands on Tren A, just swap it out with Tren E. I only take about 150mg/wk of Tren to get results. I get better results if I take more but I can't handle the sides.

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    no Ambien.

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    3 mg clonazepam
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    3 mg alprazolam

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    BROS, I am not man enough for the almighty TRENBOLONE !

    I understand, no risk, no reward! But my workouts begin at 6am, and I can't lose that much sleep or run enough laundry to keep! up!

    A couple days after last pin? I am not worthy!

    Will the TREN E wear off as fast as the TREN A?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleCurley View Post
    BROS, I am not man enough for the almighty TRENBOLONE !

    I understand, no risk, no reward! But my workouts begin at 6am, and I can't lose that much sleep or run enough laundry to keep! up!

    A couple days after last pin? I am not worthy!

    Will the TREN E wear off as fast as the TREN A?
    No, tren e will be in your system around two weeks. Should start easing off after a week. Benadryl and melatonin works for me
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    It will pass. Try nandrolone next time instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    It will pass. Try nandrolone next time instead.
    I won't lie, I'm an idiot, i mixed the deca and the tren with the sus in this cycle. Introduced too many new compounds, had bad reactions, and can't use deductive reasoning without kicking it all back to a singular compound cycle.

    Oh well you live and you learn, I will get through it, but you gotta want it bad if you're just manning up through some of the side effects to keep going with the tren.

    Hit me like a brick. Last night I wanted to destroy my step daughter because I didn't like the way she was eating her pizza, pulling the toppings off and dipping them in ranch. I had a mental fit. At the gym this morning did a few bodyweight lunges to stretch and was sweating more than Roger Ebbert ever did.

    Aborting the tren train with no hesitation.

    Pray for my sleep tonight. Pray for my sheets, poor wife and poor puppy who might drowned in my midnight tidal wave of sweat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    No, tren e will be in your system around two weeks. Should start easing off after a week. Benadryl and melatonin works for me
    Been eating benadryl like Skittles to combat the massive hives at the injection spots. It's futile!

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleCurley View Post
    I won't lie, I'm an idiot, i mixed the deca and the tren with the sus in this cycle. Introduced too many new compounds, had bad reactions, and can't use deductive reasoning without kicking it all back to a singular compound cycle.

    Oh well you live and you learn, I will get through it, but you gotta want it bad if you're just manning up through some of the side effects to keep going with the tren.

    Hit me like a brick. Last night I wanted to destroy my step daughter because I didn't like the way she was eating her pizza, pulling the toppings off and dipping them in ranch. I had a mental fit. At the gym this morning did a few bodyweight lunges to stretch and was sweating more than Roger Ebbert ever did.

    Aborting the tren train with no hesitation.

    Pray for my sleep tonight. Pray for my sheets, poor wife and poor puppy who might drowned in my midnight tidal wave of sweat.
    What is your blood pressure
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleCurley View Post
    I won't lie, I'm an idiot, i mixed the deca and the tren with the sus in this cycle. Introduced too many new compounds, had bad reactions, and can't use deductive reasoning without kicking it all back to a singular compound cycle.

    Oh well you live and you learn, I will get through it, but you gotta want it bad if you're just manning up through some of the side effects to keep going with the tren.

    Hit me like a brick. Last night I wanted to destroy my step daughter because I didn't like the way she was eating her pizza, pulling the toppings off and dipping them in ranch. I had a mental fit. At the gym this morning did a few bodyweight lunges to stretch and was sweating more than Roger Ebbert ever did.

    Aborting the tren train with no hesitation.

    Pray for my sleep tonight. Pray for my sheets, poor wife and poor puppy who might drowned in my midnight tidal wave of sweat.
    Aggression is by far the worst side I get, I don't even get the night sweats anymore. Typically the first four weeks are the worst for me. Oh yea, heartburn is a killer for me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    What is your blood pressure
    wasn't too crazy, was 133 over 73 (I littke prehypertension, nothing crazy) when I took it myself at the cuff machine in the pharmacy.

    When I went to the Doc about the hives at injection site, must have been pretty damn high as noted by the nurse. When the Doc came in, she was concerned, I said I was just nervous, she took it again at the end of the appt., and it must have normalized as she was no longer concerned (although they never told me the #)

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    According to this nifty steroidCalc plotter someone created, looks like maybe by day 22 or 24 it will subside?? it's day 15 since the first pin and day 4 since the last pin of it.

    Help with TRENsomnia-graph.jpg

    EDIT: actually the Tren didn't "kick in" and peak until the night of day 14, so i guess this chart is pretty subjective.
    Last edited by UncleCurley; 04-30-2018 at 08:54 PM. Reason: add info

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    Sweating is normal. Benadryl helped with my insomnia

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    I just dont even understand these Tren sides... ive done 400 mg tren E weekly and only side was very slow acting hair loss and a little finasteride stopped that in its tracks. I also did have increased blood pressure but outside of that felt totally normal. I actually get paranoid when I read these posts because it makes me feel like my stuff is bunk and that there are far stronger aources out there but hey..

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleCurley View Post
    I won't lie, I'm an idiot, i mixed the deca and the tren with the sus in this cycle. Introduced too many new compounds, had bad reactions, and can't use deductive reasoning without kicking it all back to a singular compound cycle.

    Oh well you live and you learn, I will get through it, but you gotta want it bad if you're just manning up through some of the side effects to keep going with the tren.

    Hit me like a brick. Last night I wanted to destroy my step daughter because I didn't like the way she was eating her pizza, pulling the toppings off and dipping them in ranch. I had a mental fit. At the gym this morning did a few bodyweight lunges to stretch and was sweating more than Roger Ebbert ever did.

    Aborting the tren train with no hesitation.

    Pray for my sleep tonight. Pray for my sheets, poor wife and poor puppy who might drowned in my midnight tidal wave of sweat.
    Please dont drown your puppy

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    for the love of god man, not the puppy.

    Much respect for admitting tren is to strong. So many people underestimate what tren will bring.

    good luck buddy
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    UPDATE:
    Last night was a bit more tame. Still woke up several times throughout the night, only sweat through 1.5 t-shirts which is a 50% improvement.
    The hives/rash at both VG injection sites, while still massive, is no longer warm to the touch, and is way less purple/pink and more of a lighter red, also not very itchy anymore. GOOD!

    Hit the gym hard this morning, felt like a fucking champ hitting 4 sets x 24 reps on the chest press.

    A tad bittersweet, but I can't justify the ends out weighing the means.

    Spent a large part of today reading similar experiences with people getting rashes and hives from Tren , also a few from DECA , and a couple from SUS.

    Hopefully not more than just a couple nights left of this Trensomnia, and a few more days til the hive rash disappears.
    Still living on antihistamines...

    Now just waiting and watching my left delt to see if the new Test E provides a similar rash/hives at this new injection spot.
    If so, this UGL is hot trash or I am beyond sensitive to the oils.

    Would there be any reason, some UGL would distribute TEST E (200mg/ml) made with EO ??? Damn I'm paranoid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m.hornbuckle View Post
    no Ambien.

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    Get a small fan for your bedroom and put it on you at night
    to help keep you cool and avoid the sweats.

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