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    DustMan is offline Associate Member
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    Post Cycle Therapy Details

    Hi guys, have some questions about how to go about PCT

    Age: 30
    Weight: 195lb's
    BF%: 13%'ish

    I did what I would consider too much steroids for a first cycle, sust 250, propenal, deca , dianabol , anedrol, in higher dosages than I was instructed, and not in a regular or controlled fashion. My dick hasn't worked since, and It certainly worked fantastic before my cycle. My steroid dealer went to jail, and I was unable to get my hands on PCT drugs, that was 8 years ago.

    I would like to try PCT now, to see if it makes any difference for me. I know I need Clomid, but do I need anything else? They do not stock Clomid at any of my local pharmacies anymore, is there a replacement drug I can get instead of Clomid? Is there somewhere I could get Clomid online, that ships to Canada? If I do find Clomid, how much do I need, and for how long do I take it? Is there something I should take with the Clomid to prevent me from suffering the side effects of clomid?

    Thank you!

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    I would suggest getting bloodwork done before going off half-cocked. (Sorry, devil made me do it.)

    Do you suffer from any residual testicular atrophy?

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    DustMan is offline Associate Member
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    I went to an endocrinologist, I have no testicular atrophy, but I do have some gyno (if that matters).

    Would I be getting the bloodwork mentioned in the "My First Cycle" post?
    1. Testosterone , Total
    2. Testosterone, Free
    3. Sensitive E2 Assay (Not basic estradiol, that's for women)
    4. CBC (Compete blood count)
    5. CMP (Comprehensive metabolic panel)
    6. Lipid Profile (post cycle is fine)
    7. LH and FSH (pre-cycle and post PCT)

    Or would I be getting something else? I had my testosterone level's checked twice when I was 18 years old before I became a boxer, I had them checked again 1 year after I stopped using steroids , I can't remember the numbers, and the results from memory don't match anything I see online, but I'll post them here anyway in case it means anything.
    I was told that normal functioning range for an adult male was between 8-24, being below 8 meant that you should take horomone therapy. Before Steroids I was a 19, after steroids I was an 11. It was a long time ago so I apologize if I'm remembering incorrectly.

    Additionally, can you get a bloodwork sheet from a walk in clinic, or do you have to get one from your family Doctor?

    Thanks

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    I see you have brought this problem up before on this board, years ago. https://forums.steroid.com/pct-post-...ml#post6750039

    You were given some solid advice then too. Did you follow though on the advice then? They were sending you off with advice for bloodwork and you said you were going to see an endo as well. So you went to an endo about this at some point after that advice as planned? What was that doc's take on things? Did you try any pct protocol yet before?

    Lack of testicular atrophy is a good sign, but that alone doesn't mean stuff is working as it should (obviously). A little latent gyno that is not actively worsening is just latent gyno, it would have nothing to do with erectile dysfunction. I see from the past posts that by now you've tried cialis and though it works you've found it to be an unsatisfactory long-term solution.

    That bloodwork panel may be slight overkill since you're not actually cycling, but if you do decide to go forward with trying a pct based on the results it'll be nice to have the comparison.

    The difference in T values, what you remember vs what you're seeing, is probably just a difference in how it was measured.

    As for the where and how on bloodwork that'll depend partly on where you are. I don't know your healthcare system. In Cali it's easiest for me to order it online, go to a local clinic partner of the online vendor, get blood drawn, and receive results shortly thereafter. You may need to employ some google-fu to find a vendor/clinic, or you could go through a doc as well. Ain't gonna change the results.

    You may be a TRT candidate. You may not. At this point there's certainly a mindfcuk component involved. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

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    It hasn't worked for 8 years!?

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    I have not tried any PCT yet, I did not get blood work done at the endocrinologist either, he asked me some questions and took a measure of my testicles, I asked about blood work and he said that I could talk to my family doctor about that. My family doctor was very unhelpful, he told me it was all in my head, referred me to a mental health councilor and prescribed me an anti-psychotic, I have been trying for some time to find a new family doctor, I finally meet my new family doctor next month, and I'm just getting ready with all the information I need before I see him. The Canadian medical system is very slow.

    Alright so, you say that blood panel is overkill, all that matters is that it's enough, so I'll get that done first. Since I can't get clomid from a Pharmacy, do you have a recommendation online that ships to Canada, and is there a thread explaining how much clomid to take based on my body specs, or what comes back in the blood panel? Or would it be wiser to post my blood panel here and ask at that time?

    Hopefully I can find a solution with PCT, and can avoid the TRT route. Thanks

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    I’d consider an Indian online pharmacy. Just do some research on reviews. They can be very good if you find a legit one.

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