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Thread: Tren E vs Tren A

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    Tren E vs Tren A

    I was talking to a guy at my gym a few days ago & we were talking about Tren , we both knew that most people prefer/recommend Tren A over E because the side effects (if bad) can be gone in a few days opposed to being in your system longer. Also I've read that blood levels tend to stay more consistent with A opposed to E..

    So I guess my question is if anyone has expierence using both & has opinions on one over the other...

    Also this is not like a cycle question for me, it will be awhile before i dabble into tren, just looking for some people with experience opinions


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    It's the same compound with a different esters. Blood levels can be the same if you pin Tren E EOD just like Tren A. First time Tren should always be with Acetate because if you can't handle the side effects you want to clear the Tren from your system as fast as possible. The only advantage to Tren E is that it is typically cheaper and has the option to be pinned twice per week.


    In the future, you can also use the search function of the forums - the majority of Tren questions have been asked 100 times over.

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    I prefer tren E.
    pinning ED or EOD gets old
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    I also prefer tren e
    I have had better gains with tren e, just my experience.
    Sides are the same for me and I pin every 3 days.

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    Tren A all day long, in quick and out quick.. I find it more potent, and it gives me a much denser look compared to E.

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    The difference in the effects of ace vs enth is in the size of the actual dose. If you pin 500mg of enth, you really only have 350mg of tren in you if you account for the weight of the ester. You would only have to pin 400ish ace to have 350mg of tren in you. When someone says ace works better, it's because they are taking more tren.

    Here is a quote from another forum, I'm unsure of the rules about linking other forums so I'll quote it.

    From reddit:

    We have to take into account ester weight, remember that Acetate is 87% and Enanthate is 70%. So:
    -Per 100mg of Tren A=87mg of actual trenbolone
    -Per 100mg of Tren E=70mg of actual trenbolone

    So in order to inject 100mg of actual hormone you need:
    -115mg of Tren A or
    -143mg of Tren E

    If we compare in steroidcalc.com (which takes into account ester weight) common tren dosages:
    -350mg/wk 50mg TrenA ED/175mg TrenE E3.5D:
    -700mg/wk 100mg TrenA ED/350mg Tren E3.5D:

    We can see that Ace blows out of the water tren E if using the same dosages, so you would need to pin more TrenE in order to have similar levels, for example to achieve 350mg of actual Tren a week you would nee to pin:
    -402mg of Tren Ace or 57mg ED
    -500mg of Tren E or 250mg E3.5D


    I had to remove the links to the steroid calc graphs that show the math because this is a new account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mox_Ruby View Post
    The difference in the effects of ace vs enth is in the size of the actual dose. If you pin 500mg of enth, you really only have 350mg of tren in you if you account for the weight of the ester. You would only have to pin 400ish ace to have 350mg of tren in you. When someone says ace works better, it's because they are taking more tren.

    Here is a quote from another forum, I'm unsure of the rules about linking other forums so I'll quote it.

    From reddit:

    We have to take into account ester weight, remember that Acetate is 87% and Enanthate is 70%. So:
    -Per 100mg of Tren A=87mg of actual trenbolone
    -Per 100mg of Tren E=70mg of actual trenbolone

    So in order to inject 100mg of actual hormone you need:
    -115mg of Tren A or
    -143mg of Tren E

    If we compare in steroidcalc.com (which takes into account ester weight) common tren dosages:
    -350mg/wk 50mg TrenA ED/175mg TrenE E3.5D:
    -700mg/wk 100mg TrenA ED/350mg Tren E3.5D:

    We can see that Ace blows out of the water tren E if using the same dosages, so you would need to pin more TrenE in order to have similar levels, for example to achieve 350mg of actual Tren a week you would nee to pin:
    -402mg of Tren Ace or 57mg ED
    -500mg of Tren E or 250mg E3.5D


    I had to remove the links to the steroid calc graphs that show the math because this is a new account.
    Tren E is typically dosed at 200mg/mL or 250mg/ml not 100mg/ML. there isn't an Enanthate ester every 100mg, only 1 ester for the whole compound. The difference is smaller. 200mg/Ml of Tren E is 170mg and 200mg of Tren Ace is 174mg - the ester weight is negligible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Tren E is typically dosed at 200mg/mL or 250mg/ml not 100mg/ML. there isn't an Enanthate ester every 100mg, only 1 ester for the whole compound. The difference is smaller. 200mg/Ml of Tren E is 170mg and 200mg of Tren Ace is 174mg - the ester weight is negligible.
    If you copy and paste my entire post and search for the string "ml", you get zero hits.

    You responded without even thinking or reading.

    That red text under your name is a lie.

    The original reddit post I took that from has all the math and links to the graphs.

    You are embarrassing yourself.

    Your avatar is a bottle of Windex. Are you even in condition?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mox_Ruby View Post
    If you copy and paste my entire post and search for the string "ml", you get zero hits.

    You responded without even thinking or reading.

    That red text under your name is a lie.

    The original reddit post I took that from has all the math and links to the graphs.

    You are embarrassing yourself.

    Your avatar is a bottle of Windex. Are you even in condition?
    OH snap!
    No you didn't just do that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel101 View Post
    OH snap!
    No you didn't just do that!
    The math was all in mg because it's about ester weight. He's not even comprehending what he's reading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mox_Ruby View Post
    If you copy and paste my entire post and search for the string "ml", you get zero hits.

    You responded without even thinking or reading.

    That red text under your name is a lie.

    The original reddit post I took that from has all the math and links to the graphs.

    You are embarrassing yourself.

    Your avatar is a bottle of Windex. Are you even in condition?
    Reddit, the official authority in AAS Information. Got it. You won't last long around here with that attitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Reddit, the official authority in AAS Information. Got it. You won't last long around here with that attitude.
    Do you want to discuss anything about the math or what I wrote or are you just going to go with this ego protection racket.

    I'm not a scientist or a medical professional but the math and science I posted is sound. I'm sure there are people here with the science skills to verify what I wrote.

    I'm wrong all the time, if want I posted was incorrect let's talk about it. This is a forum.

    Your not giving me much confidence in this place.

    Do you have a picture of yourself in shape or really conditiond for a show or something?

    The steroid calc graphs that I couldn't link really put it into perspective.

    You can use that Windex to wash the egg off your face man. Eat that egg and make sure to count it in your macros and don't forget to track it in mfp . Zing!

    I'm new here, is it kosher to link other forums? I can link the reddit thread, there are some really knowledgeable people there.

    It's just as "offical" as this place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mox_Ruby View Post
    Do you want to discuss anything about the math or what I wrote or are you just going to go with this ego protection racket.

    I'm not a scientist or a medical professional but the math and science I posted is sound. I'm sure there are people here with the science skills to verify what I wrote.

    I'm wrong all the time, if want I posted was incorrect let's talk about it. This is a forum.

    Your not giving me much confidence in this place.

    Do you have a picture of yourself in shape or really conditiond for a show or something?

    The steroid calc graphs that I couldn't link really put it into perspective.

    You can use that Windex to wash the egg off your face man. Eat that egg and make sure to count it in your macros and don't forget to track it in mfp . Zing!

    I'm new here, is it kosher to link other forums? I can link the reddit thread, there are some really knowledgeable people there.

    It's just as "offical" as this place.
    This is the best forum for information on safe AAS use and has some of the most intelligent vets when it comes to everything steroid use including TRT, unlike some meathead website with bros from the gym. Nobody cares whether or not you have confidence in a board - validation from a stranger on the internet isn't necessary.


    Maybe you should go get hit by a car going 80, break L1-L4, and see what kind of condition you end up in ? I don't know what's worse, your ignorance or arrogance.

    If posting a picture of someones physique with no context is what you need for confidence/validation you are in the wrong place and should go elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    This is the best forum for information on safe AAS use and has some of the most intelligent vets when it comes to everything steroid use including TRT, unlike some meathead website with bros from the gym. Nobody cares whether or not you have confidence in a board - validation from a stranger on the internet isn't necessary.


    Maybe you should go get hit by a car going 80, break L1-L4, and see what kind of condition you end up in ? I don't know what's worse, your ignorance or arrogance.

    If posting a picture of someones physique with no context is what you need for confidence/validation you are in the wrong place and should go elsewhere.
    Are you going to comment on any of the stuff I contributed to the actual discussion or are you just going to throw shit at the screen?

    Your proving your ignorance.

    I need the post count so I can upload a pick to my avatar. I'm not massive but I'm at least in shape.

    Have you done this?

    Do you have a pick of yourself in shape before you got hit by the car? Ronnie Coleman looks like an invilid but his media proves his credibility. Old bodybuilders look like shit but the real tom platz can talk shit all day about training legs because we can all see picks of him in his prime.

    If your injured and out of the game your knowledge is still valid if you can at least produce a pick of yourself with some pecs.

    Comon man, bodybuilding is a pagent, its all about s look and this op is trying to get that look. The op is curious and asking questions about tren , he's never done it. What I posted, if it's sound, helps him make a better decision.

    Maby someone else can read what I wrote and can comment. The user numbers here are pretty large, with a sample size this big of people, someone will call me out pretty quick if what I added was bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mox_Ruby View Post
    Are you going to comment on any of the stuff I contributed to the actual discussion or are you just going to throw shit at the screen?

    Your proving your ignorance.

    I need the post count so I can upload a pick to my avatar. I'm not massive but I'm at least in shape.

    Have you done this?

    Do you have a pick of yourself in shape before you got hit by the car? Ronnie Coleman looks like an invilid but his media proves his credibility. Old bodybuilders look like shit but the real tom platz can talk shit all day about training legs because we can all see picks of him in his prime.

    If your injured and out of the game your knowledge is still valid if you can at least produce a pick of yourself with some pecs.

    Comon man, bodybuilding is a pagent, its all about s look and this op is trying to get that look. The op is curious and asking questions about tren , he's never done it. What I posted, if it's sound, helps him make a better decision.

    Maby someone else can read what I wrote and can comment. The user numbers here are pretty large, with a sample size this big of people, someone will call me out pretty quick if what I added was bullshit.
    You are being a cocksucker, unnecessarily.
    This isn't facebook, but that is where you need to go.
    It may work to find huge injustices in youtube comments and let em have it. Here though you get banned.
    Windex is red for a reason and much more mature than you. You really should find a different place to act like a condescending asshole. You are young and I can tell by your eagerness you haven't seen much of life. You don't come in with two posts acting like a dbag to long time members.
    You have contributed nothing but think you deserve everything. That is a trait of inexperience and arrogance.

    Yes... You need a post count.
    Worse than that you need to prove yourself as windex has already many times, over years!
    Yet your newbie young self comes on here fresh off the farm and tries to call out long time members...?

    I smell an early 20's boy that has never had to earn his keep. Mommy and daddy can't do shit for you here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    You are being a cocksucker, unnecissarily.
    This isn't facebook, but that is where you need to go.
    It may work to find huge injustices in youtube comments and let em have it. Here though you get banned.
    Windex is red for a reason and much more mature than you. You really should find a different place to act like a condescending asshole. You are young and I can tell by your eagerness you haven't seen much of life. You don't come in with two posts acting like a dbag to long time members.
    You have contributed nothing but think you deserve everything. That is a trait of inexperience and arrogance.
    You can insult me all you want man.

    The tren a vs tren e questions come up all the time on every aas forum.

    If my contribution isn't valuable because the information is wrong let's talk about that.

    Windex came up with some faulty math based on volumes that had nothing to Do with what I added.


    He has even answered this same question in the past, I checked his post history.

    You can get triggered all you want. Simone else will go over what I wrote. That person will get the knowledge.

    Is it against the rules to link the original reddit thread? The graphs that go with it really add to the discussion and I can't link them because this account is new.

    It's ok to be a cocksucker it your into it. I'm into it if your hot enough.

    You have nice arms and delts in that avatar pick man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mox_Ruby View Post
    You can insult me all you want man.

    The tren a vs tren e questions come up all the time on every aas forum.

    If my contribution isn't valuable because the information is wrong let's talk about that.

    Windex came up with some faulty math based on volumes that had nothing to Do with what I added.


    He has even answered this same question in the past, I checked his post history.

    You can get triggered all you want. Simone else will go over what I wrote. That person will get the knowledge.

    Is it against the rules to link the original reddit thread? The graphs that go with it really add to the discussion and I can't link them because this account is new.

    It's ok to be a cocksucker it your into it. I'm into it if your hot enough.

    You have nice arms and delts in that avatar pick man.
    Never argued with anything you said.
    The way you said it is what everyone here will have a problem with.
    Windex is respected.
    You don't act like a douce to members, especially respected one's that keep this forum alive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Never argued with anything you said.
    The way you said it is what everyone here will have a problem with.
    Windex is respected.
    You don't act like a douce to members, especially respected one's that keep this forum alive.
    This thread removes some of his respect. He had the opportunity to say he misread what wrote and to use that respect he's earned by adding credibility to my response. His earned respect snd credibility attached to good information is a boon for new users, Assuming it's correct, I'm not a scientist. That reddit thread ends the discussion every time this question comes up. Its why I shared it.

    I don't care if I get banned for this, here is the original reddit thread. Some of the men there have valuable information. I have even read similar stuff on other message boards.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/co...effectiveness/
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    I see admin has visited your profile. That’s always a good sign.
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    Obs! You are thick as fuck at 230! You have the genes to be massive. I'm jealous. Thoes delts and arms are sick.

    I can see profiles now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    You are being a cocksucker, unnecessarily.
    You really should find a different place to act like a condescending asshole.
    I might be in trouble if this is true for everyone.
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    You disrespected one to many times here! Grow up...

    Sorry, guys I waited to long... but he is gone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    I see admin has visited your profile. That’s always a good sign.
    Guess you were correct lol
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    I've run both A and E a number of times. My body seems to like E better. The sides are more manageable. Yeah, the gains are a little slower but I like it that way. If I'm prepping for a show, I'll run A. On off season bulking, I'll run E.

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