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    Subdermal pin not so great

    So on Sunday I pinned my shoulder with a CC of test, and even though I was careful to inject slowly and pull out slowly, some of the oil came back out. Hard to tell how much it was. I then learned I should keep pressure on the plunger to stop the vacuum effect from happening. You live, you learn.

    Anyway, I decided to inject half a CC of oil into my stomach (to make up for the lost oil), about 3" to the right of my bellybutton. Used a .5" insulin needle. Now on Wednesday, I still feel the oil in there, except it feels like I have a 4" worm under the fat. It seems the oil travelled horizontally like a river and there is a hard skinny gummy worm in there. It's a little itchy but not painful.

    Now, maybe this is just virgin fat pip or something, but I can't see myself doing my TRT in my belly if it's going to be like this every time. God forbid it gets infected or something. I really thought I was going to just pin subdermally once I finish this cycle - but unless anyone can provide some insight into why this happened or if it's something I should expect, I don't see myself doing this. I get that the oil doesn't disperse as quickly in fat and the body has a tendency to envelope the oil, but I wasn't expecting this from such a small dose.


    thx for your inputs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    So on Sunday I pinned my shoulder with a CC of test, and even though I was careful to inject slowly and pull out slowly, some of the oil came back out. Hard to tell how much it was. I then learned I should keep pressure on the plunger to stop the vacuum effect from happening. You live, you learn.

    Anyway, I decided to inject half a CC of oil into my stomach (to make up for the lost oil), about 3" to the right of my bellybutton. Used a .5" insulin needle. Now on Wednesday, I still feel the oil in there, except it feels like I have a 4" worm under the fat. It seems the oil travelled horizontally like a river and there is a hard skinny gummy worm in there. It's a little itchy but not painful.

    Now, maybe this is just virgin fat pip or something, but I can't see myself doing my TRT in my belly if it's going to be like this every time. God forbid it gets infected or something. I really thought I was going to just pin subdermally once I finish this cycle - but unless anyone can provide some insight into why this happened or if it's something I should expect, I don't see myself doing this. I get that the oil doesn't disperse as quickly in fat and the body has a tendency to envelope the oil, but I wasn't expecting this from such a small dose.


    thx for your inputs!
    I've heard of this, make no mistake. It's an actual worm.

    The Chinese raws had tapeworm eggs in them. Now you've incubated one
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    Dude gtfoh I just blazed don't freak me out like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Dude gtfoh I just blazed don't freak me out like that.
    Lol

    Sorry. Jk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Lol

    Sorry. Jk
    Jesus you freaked me out for a minute.

    ...well played, well played.

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    if you have a decent and muscular physique, then your body is primed with big round muscles to inject in everywhere. why do you want to mess with finding little pockets of fat on your body to inject oil into. . that makes no sense to me at all.

    what would possess a man to look down at his big round biceps and swollen outer tricep head and not think what a perfect spot to easily pin some gear, and suddenly decide to stick it in his stomach fat instead . Weird !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    I've heard of this, make no mistake. It's an actual worm.

    The Chinese raws had tapeworm eggs in them. Now you've incubated one

    Hysterical Couch.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    if you have a decent and muscular physique, then your body is primed with big round muscles to inject in everywhere. why do you want to mess with finding little pockets of fat on your body to inject oil into. . that makes no sense to me at all.

    what would possess a man to look down at his big round biceps and swollen outer tricep head and not think what a perfect spot to easily pin some gear, and suddenly decide to stick it in his stomach fat instead . Weird !!
    AmI the only one around here who gets knots in his fat if gear gets in it? Then it hurts like hell to push a needle through it the next time around?

    I just shot....

    Biceps, triceps, chest, quads, glutes, front delts, side delts,and lats. Sixteen inj sites for 4ml of gear.
    If something got into the fat I will have a painful knot to avoid next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    AmI the only one around here who gets knots in his fat if gear gets in it? Then it hurts like hell to push a needle through it the next time around?

    I just shot....

    Biceps, triceps, chest, quads, glutes, front delts, side delts,and lats. Sixteen inj sites for 4ml of gear.
    If something got into the fat I will have a painful knot to avoid next time.

    You should join a Dart League.
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    So I guess nobody on here ever did a subdermal shot? For f*cks sake I feel like I have a snake under the skin and it's getting worse. How the hell do people recommend subdermal shots for TRT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    So I guess nobody on here ever did a subdermal shot? For f*cks sake I feel like I have a snake under the skin and it's getting worse. How the hell do people recommend subdermal shots for TRT?
    Yes, tons of guys on TRT do subqutaneous test injections in belly fat. Most will not go over about 50 to maybe 75 mgs (200 mgs per ml) though due to lumps/irritation that can occur from the slower dispersal of the oil. Not everyone has this problem though.
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    Massage and heat would be my guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Yes, tons of guys on TRT do subqutaneous test injections in belly fat. Most will not go over about 50 to maybe 75 mgs (200 mgs per ml) though due to lumps/irritation that can occur from the slower dispersal of the oil. Not everyone has this problem though.
    75 would be the bare minimum to get the 150mg/week mark. So that's like .4 mL. I did about .5 and this happened. With shooting HCG twice a week as well, I don't know how I'm going to be doing TRT subcutaneously. I have no problem injecting in the muscle, but I don't want to suffer long-term damage to the muscle from pinning so often.

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    Just jam a 1\2" needle anywhere. If it get in muscle, great. If not no biggie.

    But I wouldn't put sub q in the highest fat areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    AmI the only one around here who gets knots in his fat if gear gets in it? Then it hurts like hell to push a needle through it the next time around?

    I just shot....

    Biceps, triceps, chest, quads, glutes, front delts, side delts,and lats. Sixteen inj sites for 4ml of gear.
    If something got into the fat I will have a painful knot to avoid next time.
    What about vetroglute?
    I've been wanting to try it, but not exactly sure where it is, cant put my hand on it like in the pic...lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    What about vetroglute?
    I've been wanting to try it, but not exactly sure where it is, cant put my hand on it like in the pic...lol
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    stand up stiff in your quad muscle and it's going to be that muscle that gets real hard right below your hip probably about 3 in down below your waist line and some people love ventrogluteal I didn't like it but I only hit it twice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    stand up stiff in your quad muscle and it's going to be that muscle that gets real hard right below your hip probably about 3 in down below your waist line and some people love ventrogluteal I didn't like it but I only hit it twice
    Oh ok, thanks. Pinning 5ml ed of synthetine, water based, hurts like hell. Heard that spot wasnt as bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    I've heard of this, make no mistake. It's an actual worm.

    The Chinese raws had tapeworm eggs in them. Now you've incubated one
    Wait this is a joke right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Just jam a 1\2" needle anywhere. If it get in muscle, great. If not no biggie.

    Op, Couch really sums it up with the above line. It's exactly what I use for TRT doses. 27 ga .5 " syringe and hit delts, glutes, wherever. It doesn't matter if the injection ends up being part SQ and part IM at the same time. It all absorbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goalinmind View Post
    Wait this is a joke right
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    He can't help it he is a Russian bad ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goalinmind View Post
    Wait this is a joke right
    No, the chinese are getting us north American citizens, they are systematically taking out the most alpha men first so occupation is easy when they invade.

    Raws laced with; HIV, Hep C, parasites eggs, etc.

    They only ship the "special raws and finished oils" to North America.

    They set aside the gear bound for US customer.

    I read all about it on the internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    No, the chinese are getting us north American citizens, they are systematically taking out the most alpha men first so occupation is easy when they invade.

    Raws laced with; HIV, Hep C, parasites eggs, etc.

    They only ship the "special raws and finished oils" to North America.

    They set aside the gear bound for US customer.

    I read all about it on the internet.
    You're gonna freak him out again hahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    So I guess nobody on here ever did a subdermal shot? For f*cks sake I feel like I have a snake under the skin and it's getting worse. How the hell do people recommend subdermal shots for TRT?
    I did them for awhile and got tired of remembering to do them daily and went back to IM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashop View Post
    I did them for awhile and got tired of remembering to do them daily and went back to IM.
    Daily? Subcutaneous injections in fat are supposed to stabilize the absorption of testosterone due to the slow release. Unless you were injecting daily to avoid what happened to me.


    Btw the worm disappeared finally.

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    I do EOD test e 50mg. Into shoulder with 5\8th pin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    I do EOD test e 50mg. Into shoulder with 5\8th pin.
    Do you use 5/8 on a blast also? It’s why I’ve been using. Just got 1” to try glutes but I can’t reach that far back. Might have to do it laying down. 1.5” needles scare me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Do you use 5/8 on a blast also? It’s why I’ve been using. Just got 1” to try glutes but I can’t reach that far back. Might have to do it laying down. 1.5” needles scare me.
    You can reach glutes.
    I have been forcing myself to do so. Its a struggle but I assure you I have less flexibility than anyone on earth.
    I am a walking erection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Do you use 5/8 on a blast also? It’s why I’ve been using. Just got 1” to try glutes but I can’t reach that far back. Might have to do it laying down. 1.5” needles scare me.
    I got 5\8 and 1.5.

    Injjust try to use up the small ones on less volume. I do quads on blast so I like the reminder of the 1.5" on cycle so I at least have something to keep me in check from going nuts abusing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    I got 5\8 and 1.5.

    Injjust try to use up the small ones on less volume. I do quads on blast so I like the reminder of the 1.5" on cycle so I at least have something to keep me in check from going nuts abusing
    I ran out of 5/8 last week and had to use .5 30g to inject 1 mL into quads. Worked great, just as fast pushing the oil out as before. I go slow. Getting the oil in was another story.

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