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    Bulking without AI - advice

    Hello Guys,
    I'm at the 3rd week of my Sustanon / Tren A bulking cycle.

    This time I chose not to use Adex because in the last cycles at only 0.25 mg x 2 / week it carried my estrogen highly below the minimum even for several months after the end of the cycle.
    This time I intend to benefit from the synergy of high estrogen levels with the Tren to maximize the growth, making the combination "wet" in this way.

    I can't do bloodwork to check estrogen levels because the value would be probably offset from the Tren,
    So, how can I monitor estrogen and prevent any gino-sides in advance?
    I've adex and nolvadex on hand.

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    You can run ralox for the entire cycle to prevent gyno symptoms. Also i beleive mast and eq have anti estrogen like properties. Adex is way too powerful for most, aromasin is easier to manage if you want to try that instead. Or atleast have it on hand

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    What is ralox? I don't know it..
    I have nolva on hand and cannot get other in this moment..
    Can I ran a low dose of nolva? if yes, how much and how long in the cycle?

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    You are on the right track about using the synergy.
    I have done this by “feel” which is probably not the best way, but I no longer take an AI except when I am purposefully lowering my e2.
    How much are you taking of sust and tren ? I can take quite a bit of test without any guns.


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    I'm on 400 mg Tren A and 750 Sust / week.
    In the last bulk cycles running adex during entire cycle I never gain more than 13 - 15 pounds in total.
    I am currently in the third week and I have already taken 11 lbs from start without adex at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TestoSuper View Post
    What is ralox? I don't know it..
    I have nolva on hand and cannot get other in this moment..
    Can I ran a low dose of nolva? if yes, how much and how long in the cycle?
    Raloxifine. It acts similar to nolva and blunts the receptor.

    ralox 30-60mg daily on cycle
    Nolva 10-20mg daily on cycle

    30mg of ralox is plenty for me.

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    Ok then I will take 20 mg Nolva a day until the end of the cycle .

    I can not get raloxiphene in this moment.

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