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    Test and eq cycle

    Going back on cycle for 16 weeks and thinking about adding eq into the mix but want some input on dosage. Test will be at 500mg/wk. Should eq be at the same dose at test or can 250mg/wk be beneficial or a waste of time being that low? Looking for strength gains, not too worried about size at the moment. I have never tried EQ before. I have ran dbol and deca in the past with good results

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    EQ is generally dosed at or higher than test. Please do some research on EQ, plan on having red cells drawn at least twice during your cycle as EQ will thicken your blood to potentially dangerous levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valleylift View Post
    Going back on cycle for 16 weeks and thinking about adding eq into the mix but want some input on dosage. Test will be at 500mg/wk. Should eq be at the same dose at test or can 250mg/wk be beneficial or a waste of time being that low? Looking for strength gains, not too worried about size at the moment. I have never tried EQ before. I have ran dbol and deca in the past with good results
    if you've ran Dbol and Deca in the past, and your now looking to run a mild dosage of EQ, then your going to be greatly disappointed .

    EQ works best as a 'filler' drug.. its basically a mild non estrogen and limited androgenic form of Test. it works great for guys who are estrogen sensitive and who want to run say a gram of test as a base for their cycle, but can't handle a gram of test due to the estrogen sides.. so they simply run 400mg of test and 600mg of EQ to give them and equivalent 1 gram test base (but with much lower E conversion).

    why exactly did you pick EQ to run if your goal is strength ?

    also regarding your dosage of 250mg per week .. not going to do much. when I'm off cycle and just cruising, I've often times ran 500mg of EQ as my 'trt' . if your looking to run EQ as your primary AAS during a cycle. then it needs dosed much higher (or just used as a supplemental or 'filler' drug) .. EQ works great in certain anabolic phases of cycling, however its not that great as a stand alone compound imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    EQ is generally dosed at or higher than test. Please do some research on EQ, plan on having red cells drawn at least twice during your cycle as EQ will thicken your blood to potentially dangerous levels. .
    I've heard this about EQ for years.. however I've yet to experience it myself or see it with others at any higher rate then any other AAS .

    The reason why its common to think that EQ raises your hemoglobin hematocrit , is simply imo , because its very common for this drug to be ran at high dosages (800-1200mg a week) and for long durations (16-24 weeks) . well if you go doing that with Deca , your hemoglobin is going to be greatly elevated too . same with a lot of other AAS.. I don't think EQ is a special case for raising RBC more then deca or Anadrol or lots of other AAS (its just more common based on how people run it).

    I cruised on EQ as my TRT at a moderate dose for 5 months.. my Hemoglobin was around 15 after that. but I've also ran Deca for only 12 weeks (with no EQ) and gotten my hemoglobin in the mid 19s and hematocrit mid 50s. heck I've cruised on high dosages of test and that too elevated my blood levels quite a bit. but EQ did not do it at any faster rate then any other drug I've ran..
    HOWEVER , I have no doubt that if you run EQ the way its commonly ran , 800-1200mg a week for 20 weeks, then yes at the end your RBC will be elevated (but it would with most AAS at that dosage and duration).

    just my thoughts and experiences . but everyone is different . EQ can probably raise RBC for some guys more then others.. I just don't think its really all that 'special feature' of an aspet of EQ more then any other AAS.
    in fact, some of the more modern and recent online profiles for EQ don't even bother to mention the increase RBC as a special feature of this drug like a lot of the older profiles used to do (think they got rid of some of the bro science)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post

    why exactly did you pick EQ to run if your goal is strength ?
    I want to experience for myself how it compares to deca mainly and also have read in several different places that strength and endurance gains are very common with EQ without as high of estrogen activity as other choices. Plus the increased appetite wouldn't be a bad thing in my case either
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    I never hear guys talking about dbol raising hematocrit and hemoglobin which is ironic cause that's the only drug that's raised my rbc's so high that I was getting nose bleeds every time I leaned over....even happened once when I was going down on my girl, not very sexy hahaha. But yeah like GH I've had the same experience with EQ, been on it for months as well as test and no issues.

    On the flip side, I have buddies on ONLY trt and maybe a little nandrolone through a doctor and they have a difficult time controlling their hemoglobin and crit... Genetics, genetics, genetics!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valleylift View Post
    I want to experience for myself how it compares to deca mainly and also have read in several different places that strength and endurance gains are very common with EQ without as high of estrogen activity as other choices. Plus the increased appetite wouldn't be a bad thing in my case either
    EQ is great for appetite increase but I thought you said you're not worried about size on this cycle and your focused on strength..?

    In that case EQ is def not your best option. It's prob my favorite compound to run in the background as a staple but wouldn't recommend to someone looking to make notable strength gains.

    When it comes to strength I hate to say it but one drug is king!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMindz View Post
    I never hear guys talking about dbol raising hematocrit and hemoglobin which is ironic cause that's the only drug that's raised my rbc's so high that I was getting nose bleeds every time I leaned over.
    interesting side note . EQ is really nothing more then injectable Dbol (they just un-mehtylated Dbol and removed the 17alka .. but other then that its chemically the same drug). of course that shows how much a drug can change its nature, one being made for oral consumption and one made for injection only (big difference between the two now)
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    interesting side note . EQ is really nothing more then injectable Dbol (they just un-mehtylated Dbol and removed the 17alka .. but other then that its chemically the same drug). of course that shows how much a drug can change its nature, one being made for oral consumption and one made for injection only (big difference between the two now)
    Interesting man.. People may get confused with Reforvit-b which is still methandrostenelone but in sterile injectable form. Wonder if my body would react the same to injectble version of same drug..?

    Yeah I've heard you mention that but didn't consider the connection til you pointed it out. I can run test and eq at over a gram a week for extended periods of time with no note worthy impact on my hemo and crit, but a mere 30mgs of dbol I have blood gushing outta my nose cause it gets so high!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMindz View Post
    EQ is great for appetite increase but I thought you said you're not worried about size on this cycle and your focused on strength..
    I work a blue collar job and alot of times I get off work without much of an appetite and after lifting not much of an appetite either. I dont wanna get burnt out because of poor eating

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valleylift View Post
    I work a blue collar job and alot of times I get off work without much of an appetite and after lifting not much of an appetite either. I dont wanna get burnt out because of poor eating
    What non-drug strategies have you tried to improve your eating / appetite ?

    Increased hunger is a side effect of EQ,as just like a side effect with any drug everyone's mileage may vary. You may be a person who eats like a horse or you may be one of the many people who experience zero appetite increase.

    Despite their different properties, Going from Nandrolone to EQ in my opinion is like trading in a ferrari for a skateboard.

    I would look to overcome your diet roadblock either via something like B12 or a holistic approach (improving mental strength for example). That will open way more doors and set you up for success.

    Relying on a single compound to be able to eat more is creating more problems then it solves as you will end up yo-yo'ing on and off cycle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Going from Nandrolone to EQ in my opinion is like trading in a ferrari for a skateboard.
    good analogy here . especially if he is going from running a combo of Deca /Dbol , to his proposed 250mg a week of EQ. there is just no comparison here (and I'm even a fan of EQ)

    why not add EQ on TOP OF your experience with Deca and Dbol. simply use the EQ as your 'Testosterone ' basis, and add Deca and or Dbol to this (that way you use EQ for what its best for , you get the increase appetite, and you get all the strength and awesome gains that come with deca/dbol). AND you get to run way way less Test in the process (just throw in like 150mg a week)
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    EQ some love, some say it's a waste. It's one of those compounds you really just need to try for yourself. I love it personally! Run minimum 600mg per week. I can't wait to get back on it soon. I feel great, look great. It's really good stuff

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