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    darktime is offline New Member
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    Question Dbol starter with TMT? (test,tren,mast)

    About to run a 10 week bulking cycle,

    It's my first time time using a pre-mix - Elixir TMT 425 (forum spam bot is blocking me posting the contents, or my full cycle, will try to post in comments)
    In the past i have always started my test/tren cycles with Dianabol

    Got bloods back from GP and all good to go, just don't know whether i need the initial DBOL kick with this cycle?
    Anyone have previous experience with a TMT stack? Would the added water retention from it out-way the Drostanolone's hardening affects?



    Any suggestions, pointers criticism etc welcome.

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    darktime is offline New Member
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    TMT 425 (Elixir-Meds) of which each ml of product contains:

    Testosterone Enanthate 225mg
    Trenbolone Enanthate 100mg
    Drostanolone Enanthate 100mg

    10 week Cycle:
    Week 1-3: DBOL ?
    Week 1-10: TMT 1.5ml x 2/week (3ml/w total)
    Week 2-10: Arimadex .5mg epd (every pin day or when needed)
    Week 12 -15: Nolvadex 40/40/20/10

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    I have not used that one but frequently use TNT which is 250mg Test E with 150mg Tren E. I don’t run it be itself though as I like to use more Tren than test. The problem with just using that is you can’t adjust one with adjusting another. I like running Dbol alongside in bulks. I just moved into a new phase of my cycle 250mg Test E with 900mg Deca and I’ll be adding in dbol in 2 weeks. Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by darktime View Post
    About to run a 10 week bulking cycle,

    It's my first time time using a pre-mix - Elixir TMT 425 (forum spam bot is blocking me posting the contents, or my full cycle, will try to post in comments)
    In the past i have always started my test/tren cycles with Dianabol

    Got bloods back from GP and all good to go, just don't know whether i need the initial DBOL kick with this cycle?
    Anyone have previous experience with a TMT stack? Would the added water retention from it out-way the Drostanolone's hardening affects?



    Any suggestions, pointers criticism etc welcome.
    well your starting a bulking cycle . the last thing you want to do is NOT have enough water retention. so I would add the Dbol to get the extra aromatization/estrogen , nutrient partitioning, water retention, mineral retention, etc.. plus the extra estrogen is going to help sensitize your androgen receptors, become anabolic in the presence of elevated androgens, and drastically increase IGF levels (tren helps elevated IGF levels through the estrogen mechanism of action).

    again, your bulking. you want to take advantage of all these things. dbol is only going to help with these factors

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