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Thread: Evaluate my steroid and pct cycle

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    Evaluate my steroid and pct cycle

    Hello everyone, I won't waste much time here. I just want you to evaluate my cycle.

    Name: Ryan Fisher
    Age: 29 years
    Current body weight: 200 lbs
    Current body fat percentage: 8%
    My Cycle Goal: Gain 8-10 pounds of body weight while keeping my body fat in the 15% body fat range

    CORRECTION OF MY CYCLE


    Week 1
    600 mg Testosterone Cypionate
    400 mg of Deca -Durabolin
    50 mg Dianabol every day
    250 ui Hcg every 4 days




    Week 2
    600 mg Testosterone Cypionate
    400 mg of Deca-Durabolin
    50 mg Dianabol every day
    250 ui Hcg every 4 days


    Week 3
    600 mg Testosterone Cypionate
    400 mg of Deca-Durabolin
    50 mg Dianabol every day
    250 ui Hcg every 4 days



    Week 4
    600mg Testosterone Cypionate
    400 mg of Deca-Durabolin
    50 mg Dianabol every day
    250 ui Hcg every 4 days



    Week 5
    600 mg Testosterone Cypionate
    400 mg of Deca-Durabolin
    50 mg Dianabol every day
    250 ui Hcg every 4 days





    Week 6
    600 mg Testosterone Cypionate
    400 mg of Deca-Durabolin
    50 mg Dianabol every day
    250 ui Hcg every 4 days

    Week 7
    600 mg Testosterone Cypionate
    400mg of Deca-Durabolin
    250 ui Hcg every 4 days






    Week 8
    600mg Testosterone Cypionate
    400 mg of Deca-Durabolin
    250 ui Hcg every 4 days




    Week 9
    600 mg Testosterone Cypionate
    400 mg of Deca-Durabolin
    250 ui Hcg every 4 days



    Week 10
    600 mg Testosterone Cypionate
    400 mg of Deca-Durabolin
    250 ui Hcg every 4 days




    Week 11
    600 mg Testosterone Cypionate
    400 mg of Deca-Durabolin
    250 ui Hcg every 4 days

    Week 12
    600 mg Testosterone Cypionate
    400 mg of Deca-Durabolin
    250 ui Hcg every 4 days


    Week 13
    600 mg Testosterone Cypionate
    250 ui Hcg every 4 days

    Week 14
    600 mg Testosterone Cypionate
    250 ui Hcg every 4 days




    My Pct
    Novaldex
    Week 1 to Week 4
    40mg / 20mg / 20mg / 20mg

    Clomid
    Week 1 to Week 4
    75mg / 50mg / 50mg / 50mg
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    200mg of deca really isn’t going to yield any significant gains. I’d personally be more in the 400mg range for deca. Test is generally run two weeks longer than deca for those who pct. I’m assuming you mean .25 mg of Arimedex eod and not 25mg...
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    Good !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wannabhuge14 View Post
    200mg of deca really isn’t going to yield any significant gains. I’d personally be more in the 400mg range for deca. Test is generally run two weeks longer than deca for those who pct. I’m assuming you mean .25 mg of Arimedex eod and not 25mg...
    I did not notice that I put 25 mg of Arimedex instead of the correct 0.25mg of Arimedex


    Can Arimidex be replaced by Aromasin ? If I were to use Aromasin instead of Arimidex, what would be the appropriate dose?





    So you think I should increase theDeca-Durabolin to 400 mg?


    I will do two more weeks of Cipi than the deca .
    Yes I will do a Pct, I am here seeking guidance!
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    You can replace Arimedex with Aromasin . In all likelihood at the amount of test you’ll be running you won’t need either unless you are super sensitive to estrogen. Standard dosing for Aromasin is 12.5mg ed.

    200mg and under of deca is generally considered a “therapeutic” dose for those who have joint issues. At that dose you aren’t going to get much more than that. 400mg per week is a good place to start.
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    No reason to start arimidex or aromasin on the first week. You’re going to crash your estrogen right out of the gate. Wait until 3rd week.


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    I doubt you’ll require any AI with only 400mg of test and 30mg of dianabol . If you’re sensitive to estrogen run 10mg or nolvadex every day to prevent gyno. The whole point of running those 2 compounds is to raise your estrogen. Using an AI with test and dianabol is like buying a race car and putting square tires on it
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    Thank you master

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    No reason to start arimidex or aromasin on the first week. You’re going to crash your estrogen right out of the gate. Wait until 3rd week.


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    I will follow this advice

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    Taking an ai will most certainly hinder your gains.
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    Master

    Quote Originally Posted by i_SLAM_cougars View Post
    I doubt you’ll require any AI with only 400mg of test and 30mg of dianabol. If you’re sensitive to estrogen run 10mg or nolvadex every day to prevent gyno. The whole point of running those 2 compounds is to raise your estrogen. Using an AI with test and dianabol is like buying a race car and putting square tires on it
    Master I have the post open for possible corrections thanks .I will take Nolvadex instead of Anastrozol!
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    Thanks

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    Taking an ai will most certainly hinder your gains.
    Thanks bro, I'll order a tamoxifen citrate serm and take it at 10mg a day to prevent gynecomatia and estrogen in my body
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    If you are that concerned with gyno then nolvadex is most certainly the route I would take. Estrogen is extremely anabolic so elevated levels are actually beneficial for growth. The ai takes that out of the equation where as the serm does not.
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    I understood now master, thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wannabhuge14 View Post
    If you are that concerned with gyno then nolvadex is most certainly the route I would take. Estrogen is extremely anabolic so elevated levels are actually beneficial for growth. The ai takes that out of the equation where as the serm does not.
    What would be the correct time to administer my post-cycle therapy with Nolvadex and Clomid together?
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    Pct should start 2 weeks after your last injection of Test Cypionate .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wannabhuge14 View Post
    Pct should start 2 weeks after your last injection of Test Cypionate.
    It's not as simple as that
    The deca has to clear as well (and takes longer than the test), that's why there was an earlier suggestion to stop the deca 2 weeks earlier than the test
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer View Post
    It's not as simple as that
    The deca has to clear as well (and takes longer than the test), that's why there was an earlier suggestion to stop the deca 2 weeks earlier than the test
    I suggested stopping deca 2 weeks prior to the test. So waiting 2 weeks after last test injection would be 4 after the last deca injection. Is this not right?
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    The active life of the substance nandrolone is 21 days and testosterone cypionate is 14 days.

    So, I will stop taking Deca Durabolin in week 13.

    And then can I start my post-cycle therapy 2 weeks after the last testosterone cypionate injection?

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    your over thinking things .. truth is you can end your cycle whenever your ready . then wait 2 weeks, 3 weeks, 4 weeks,, whatever, and start your pct whenever you feel your ready . I'm as 'systematic' and analytical as you can get when it comes to AAS and the way I do things . but PCT timing is not really something you have to be analytical on , or looking at half life of drugs and time things perfectly .

    when the drugs clear your system, believe me you'll know. then start your pct. its that simple

    hopefully your diet and training programming are much more analytical , systematic, and more put together then what your trying to do with something as basic and non important as when to start PCT . just saying. you'll find way more gains being analytical on that stuff, then you will be on timing pct

    timing PCT, in the big picture of things, on a scale of 1-10 , is about a 0.001 . hopefully your not missing a meal trying to figure this stuff out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wannabhuge14 View Post
    I suggested stopping deca 2 weeks prior to the test. So waiting 2 weeks after last test injection would be 4 after the last deca injection. Is this not right?
    My bad. Didn't realize it was you. Taken out of context that was my response. You are correct
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    your over thinking things .. truth is you can end your cycle whenever your ready . then wait 2 weeks, 3 weeks, 4 weeks,, whatever, and start your pct whenever you feel your ready . I'm as 'systematic' and analytical as you can get when it comes to AAS and the way I do things . but PCT timing is not really something you have to be analytical on , or looking at half life of drugs and time things perfectly .

    when the drugs clear your system, believe me you'll know. then start your pct. its that simple

    hopefully your diet and training programming are much more analytical , systematic, and more put together then what your trying to do with something as basic and non important as when to start PCT . just saying. you'll find way more gains being analytical on that stuff, then you will be on timing pct

    timing PCT, in the big picture of things, on a scale of 1-10 , is about a 0.001 . hopefully your not missing a meal trying to figure this stuff out
    Agreed. Very good point. I feel like a lot of people crash emotionally, and let the diet and training slip at that point when it's most important, so they can keep their gains. Their body has to acclimate to that new weight and will shed it as soon as possible. So it is vital to not take your foot off the gas. The fact you are no longer on gear is not an excuse to stop a rep short or go off diet.
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    some guys will have their drug cycles all planned out on an excel spread sheet,, dosing protocols per day with exact mg's dialed in, pct timing etc. etc.. all planned out to a T . yet ask these guys what their macros are and they have no clue . ask them whats the last thing they've been able to progressively overload in the gym and they have no clue . yet they have the half life of drugs they are on dialed down to the exact day of when to start their pct
    they are stepping over dollars to pick up pennies !


    I'm not saying this is you OP . just using this as a springboard to make a point
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    I agree with you, many give up good nutrition to embrace only steroids. Throwing money in the trash. I have the food on time, and I'm just here seeking guidance with you to make things as correct as possible.: aaGreen22
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer View Post
    My bad. Didn't realize it was you. Taken out of context that was my response. You are correct
    Not a problem good sir.

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