Erectile Dysfunction during 1-2 week of PCT

[che_]

Hi all,

I just ran a 8 week cycle Sus250 cycle:
- Week 1-6: 500 (injected twice a week)
- Went a holiday for 10 days and when I got back I decided to finish the bottle and ran 400 for the next 2 weeks.
- I ran arimidex 3rd week of the cycle and also bit of Letro towards the end as I was getting gyno

I started PCT 3 weeks after last injection and I'm running the following:
- Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
- Clomid 100/100/50/50
- Sup3rPCT

I am in my 2nd week of PCT and I have severe erectile dysfunction, I literally can't get an erection even if I tried to beat off. This is my 4th cycle and I have never experienced this before and starting to get a bit worried. I've always had a 4-6 month break in between each cycle to let my natural testosterone to bounce back. The only thing that I have done differently in this cycle is using Letro.

Has anyone experienced this before? Would really appreciate y'all advice on this.

Cheers.

[kelkel]

Your human. It happens. Your hormones are in total flux. Add in some cialis and see if it helps but overall time will take care of it for you.

[i_SLAM_cougars]

It’s hard to just speculate, but if I had to guess, you crashed out your E2 right at the end of your cycle with Letro, and then it rebounded hard as soon you dropped the test. Also I don’t know what super PCT is, but it’s probably not worth what you payed for it.

Kel is right, your body just needs time to re-adjust. Don’t go throwing more or extra at it now. It’ll just make things worse.

[djnuffsaid]

It’s hard to just speculate, but if I had to guess, you changed out your E2 right at the end of your cycle with Letro, and then it rebounded hard as soon you dropped the test. Also I don’t know what super PCT is, but it’s probably not worth what you payed for it.

Kel is right, your body just needs time to re-adjust. Don’t go throwing more or extra at it now. It’ll just make things worse.

Agree with both guys above. It happens man, you just chemically changed the hormones in your body for several months and even though you said you had gyno, probably didn't really need to run an AI. So not only did you crash your test levels by coming off cycle, you also crashed your E2 levels. Do you feel like shit overall or just the ED problem? Take some cialis or viagra.

[GearHeaded]

two things .. you either crashed your estrogen running too much Letro at the end of your cycle (when you were only running 400mg of test which isn't very much and wouldn't require an AI) , OR your experiencing a really bad estrogen rebound where not only have your E levels shot up some, but your androgen levels have completely fallen off (being your no longer injecting test and your not producing it naturally either) so your estrogen to androgen ratio is totally out of balance.

the only thing you can do at this point is give it time and let your natty hormones bounce back

[Getsomehate]

sounds really normal .Continue PCT it will get better

[che_]

Thanks for the advice and support everyone. I do feel a lot more lethargic and my brain is foggy atm but that is what's expected when coming off. Just never experienced ED to this severity.

You're probably right that Sup3r PCT is useless, I thought it may help aid with recovery - https://massivejoes.com/shop/olympus-labs-sup3r-pct FYI

Is there any point getting blood work to see my estrogen and androgen levels?

[GearHeaded]

Thanks for the advice and support everyone. I do feel a lot more lethargic and my brain is foggy atm but that is what's expected when coming off. Just never experienced ED to this severity.

You're probably right that Sup3r PCT is useless, I thought it may help aid with recovery - https://massivejoes.com/shop/olympus-labs-sup3r-pct FYI

Is there any point getting blood work to see my estrogen and androgen levels?

your on PCT drugs. they are going to skew your blood work. wait about 5 weeks after PCT and get blood work then .. nothing on your bloodwork at this time is going to really tell you or do anything for you

[Dgs59]

As guys said, seems like crashed estrogen, The ED should go away within few weeks. It's nothing to worry about... don't think about it too much, just give it a time if in relationship, get Viagra/Cialis.

[Dgs59]

You're probably right that Sup3r PCT is useless, I thought it may help aid with recovery - https://massivejoes.com/shop/olympus-labs-sup3r-pct FYI

$100 rip-off

[jchc86]

I'm terrified of this possibility. Just started my first cycle.

[jjsevens]

I'm in the same boat right now, ran test for about 18 weeks and started PCT about 3 weeks ago and have ZERO sex drive, weak erections, even if I take Cialis, nothing. This is my 4th cycle, and the worst I've ever felt coming off.

Going in to see the Dr this week to get bloodwork done to see where things are at... So hopefully this is just temporary and things go back to normal soon.

[Test Monsterone]

I think it’s fair to say that if it took you 3 months to deregulate your endocrine system/HPTA, it will take around that much time to regulate it...if all goes as planned. There is a reason people warn against cycling steroids , and one of those reasons is damaging your HPTA.

What I don’t understand is, if you do a cycle and come off, you end up with (in the best case) a couple of months of sub-optimal testosterone levels - from which you will lose basically all of your gains, minus maybe some fat you put on. If you were a noob, maybe you kept some, at the cost of lower overall testosterone levels in the long-run. It just looks like a lose-lose to me. Even on TRT you will lose basically all your gains when you go back to HIGH TRT levels. Now imagine going back down to 100 ng/DL for 2 months. You can’t expect to keep anything - again, unless you were nowhere near your genetic potential.

[GearHeaded]

I think it’s fair to say that if it took you 3 months to deregulate your endocrine system/HPTA, it will take around that much time to regulate it...if all goes as planned. There is a reason people warn against cycling steroids , and one of those reasons is damaging your HPTA.

What I don’t understand is, if you do a cycle and come off, you end up with (in the best case) a couple of months of sub-optimal testosterone levels - from which you will lose basically all of your gains, minus maybe some fat you put on. If you were a noob, maybe you kept some, at the cost of lower overall testosterone levels in the long-run. It just looks like a lose-lose to me. Even on TRT you will lose basically all your gains when you go back to HIGH TRT levels. Now imagine going back down to 100 ng/DL for 2 months. You can’t expect to keep anything - again, unless you were nowhere near your genetic potential.

I agree with this to a certain point .. but this is not always the case for each individual . some guys will keep their gains post cycle and still keep progressing.

Look at Fouad Abiad for example . for the first 5 years of his bodybuilding he would do a cycle , then come off and pct. he clearly kept his gains plus some


now he blasts and cruises .. but either way he still built his base even though he came off gear several times per year. I don't think this is optimal by any means , its best to stay on most the year , but just saying some guys certainly do NOT lose their gains when coming off cycle

[Cuz]

Just never come off test! Problem fixed . Hooked on Test...worked for me