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Thread: Switching Masteron Esters?

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    Zaklucas301 is offline New Member
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    Switching Masteron Esters?

    I'm 25yr. 209lbs. 16% BF. 6'0ft tall. This is my 3rd cycle.

    I lift 6 days a week. High reps, low weight. I stay in a pretty intense calorie deficiency everyday. Burning the rest of this BF off.

    I know your not supposed to run masteron unless you have a lower bodyfat percentage, so no need to lecture me about that. I'm mainly running it for the anti-estrogen properties. I want as little water retention as possible.

    I started this cycle two weeks ago. When I started, my supplier only had Mast E, even though I really wanted Mast P. I settled... anyways, now he finally has Mast P available. Can I switch it up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaklucas301 View Post

    I know your not supposed to run masteron unless you have a lower bodyfat percentage, so no need to lecture me about that.

    how about I lecture you and tell you that is total bullshit masteron is a great ancillary type AAS for nearly any cycle, especially when using 19 nors even when bulking and at high BF%.

    of course Masteron being pretty androgenic its going to have more noticeable cosmetic effects if your lower body fat % . but heck thats the same with any steroid , not just mast .


    as for switching to mast p . yes just switch over if you want. theres nothing special you got to do to switch (heck I often run both together)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaklucas301 View Post
    I know your not supposed to run masteron unless you have a lower bodyfat percentage, so no need to lecture me about that. I'm mainly running it for the anti-estrogen properties.
    Thats like that bullshit about not using steroids unless you’re under 15% bodyfat because your estrogen will get out of control...

    How many power lifters and worlds strongest man competitors are under 15% bodyfat??? And guess what? They all use steroids that aromatize heavily to estrogen.

    You need not pay attention to silly ass people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by i_SLAM_cougars View Post
    Thats like that bullshit about not using steroids unless you’re under 15% bodyfat because your estrogen will get out of control...

    How many power lifters and worlds strongest man competitors are under 15% bodyfat??? And guess what? They all use steroids that aromatize heavily to estrogen.

    You need not pay attention to silly ass people.
    In theory wouldn’t that make fat guys more anabolic than us lean guys lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wannabhuge14 View Post
    In theory wouldn’t that make fat guys more anabolic than us lean guys lol
    Probably since they carry more muscle than pro bodybuilders
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    Why would you want to switch and inject that much volume every other day.
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    Stick with long esters less injections. In all honesty you should be injecting prop ed for more stable bloods. I'll do enanthate eod, or at the very least M,W,F or convenience depending upon cycle.
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    I don't see the reason to switch over to the short ester. The short ester is good if you need to clear it out of your system quick like a tren if your having bad sides but like Windex said, you'd just be pumping more volume of oil in you for the same exact effect. I prefer Enanthate esters most of the time due to the less pinning since I already pin quite a bit. But I also mix p and e together sometimes depending on whats going on.

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    As for the Esther thing it’s just personal preference and what you have on hand. I always have mast prop on hand as an ancillary Incase I run into some side effects from a cycle that I’m not actually using mast in. Because when that happens I want that shit in me yesterday.

    If I’m going to run mast in my cycle i’ll use enanthate because it’s usually dosed 2X as much per ml, it’s cheaper, and I can inject it every 3.5 days. I’ll still likely frontload with prop until the long Esther kicks in though.

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    I dont see an issue with switching from enanthate to prop (or any long to short) during a cycle, but I would not do the reverse (i.e. from short to long). This is not considering frontloading, which is more an addition than a switch. Maybe I am reading the cycle wrong above, but it seems misguided that you need to run over 2500mg of gear a week at 209 lbs and your primary goal is fat loss.

    Try low dose, say 250mg a week of test, and then really clean up the diet and do higher volume work. Clenbuterol is an option too, but it is overrated.

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