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11-14-2019, 08:08 PM #1Junior Member
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Side effects of Test
Is hot flashes a normal thing when taking Test C I am about two weeks in now. Everyone so often I feel a wave of heat come over me. I then begin to sweat. Just as fast as it comes it goes. Feel like a women durning menopause haha
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11-14-2019, 08:17 PM #2
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11-14-2019, 11:11 PM #3Junior Member
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I am running a Test C only cycle. Basically 250mg every three days. This is not a prescription so I am hoping it is legit Test C. I did a roid test and it passed.( I know the roid test is not super accurate.)I was hoping the flashs where a side effect of the Test. It would confirm the Test is good.
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11-15-2019, 12:28 AM #4
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11-15-2019, 12:06 PM #5Junior Member
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11-15-2019, 12:16 PM #6
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test is one of the cheapest steroids out there you have probably spent more money on the roid tests then the cycle itself...time will tell if its real ultimately...try to relax...
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11-15-2019, 03:29 PM #7Junior Member
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I think there is a misconception about the price of of roid test products. I payed 30 Cad. Time will tell but I would rather not inject 2 times a week with fake shit. I bought from a reputable source mentioned on this form. But still I have trust issues. The Home testosterone level kit on the other hand cost a bit more, it was 79 cad. Defiantly worth the money. I would much rather pay a bit of money and know what I am taking instead waiting to see if it is legit gear.
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11-15-2019, 07:00 PM #10
Can the test determine how many mg’s per ML your gear is dosed at? If I’m not mistaken they just detect the presence of the molecule but can’t differentiate between ratio’s, correct?
You could still be sold under dosed gear that’s 50 mg’s per ML when it’s labeled 250 mg’s per ML yet the test kit would register it as good to go...
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11-15-2019, 07:22 PM #11Admin Sent Me Away.
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11-15-2019, 08:11 PM #12Junior Member
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My only option in Canada is is to use " Lets Get tested" This is a testosterone only blood test. It was 79 Cad. Money is not the issue. I am willing to pay to determine if the product is legit. Moving forward I would be able to trust the company if everything checked out. Cant do private blood work in the Province I am in. There is option in Canada but in Ontario which is on the other side of the country.
I do like your advice though. Just Relax. I am sure I am being super paranoid on my first cycle.
The "Lets Get tested" is a home test kit. They mail you you the test kit. I provide a sample and send it back to them.
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11-15-2019, 08:24 PM #13Junior Member
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The ROID test just detects the presence of the substance being tested. There are no ratios with that Test. With the Home Testosterone Test it is measured in nano grams per deciliter.( 383 ng/dl) So if it is good gear I should be a high number. What is a ball park number for 500mg of TEST C every 3 days? Not sure if weight matter s but I am 280lbs.
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11-15-2019, 08:55 PM #14
What’s your body fat noname. Are you east coast or west.
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11-15-2019, 09:25 PM #15Admin Sent Me Away.
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11-15-2019, 09:54 PM #16Staff ~ HRT Optimization Specialist
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No just no. That's a terrible idea in Canada.
Then the doctor orders a full hormone panel and sees sky high testosterone with LH+FSH at 0. Then it gets attached to his health card permanently. Easy way to admit to being on gear.I no longer check my inbox. If you PM me I will not reply.
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11-15-2019, 10:02 PM #17Staff ~ HRT Optimization Specialist
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You need to just relax. Maybe have a couple of threesomes with some cute girls. Stress is literally the worst thing you can do, especially on cycle it will just exacerbate all your issues.
If you are worried about fake gear then quite frankly you are in the wrong hobby to be blunt and honest.
- If your concerned about the cost investment then you shouldn't be spending what you can't afford to lose
- If you are concerned about "wasting your time" then look at the glass half full. The reality is even if it was fake gear and you thought it was real, the placebo effect is making you train harder and better. Anyone that says they don't train atleast a little bit harder on cycle is lying to you.
- If you are concerned about an infection then you should be making the gear at home yourself.
Again, panicking and stressing yourself is causing more harm than a few hot flashes. How you handle yourself over the cycle is going to determine if your cut out for the lifestyle.
The people that aren't are the ones who chug AI if their nipple itches once, or spend hours googling from a single "test" flu symptom, or go to clinic because they bled a bit on an injection. Those same people are the ones that cry because they have to take a sharp needle and shove it into their muscle twice a week to improve themselves.
Don't sweat the small stuff and don't be concerned about things that are out of your control. That goes for life, not just your cycle.Last edited by Windex; 11-15-2019 at 10:30 PM.
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11-16-2019, 09:38 AM #19
Shit, two years into TRT/cycles and I just got my first big vein snag. Bled, knotted up under the skin, etc. Two days later it was just a bruise. People freak out over the most trivial shit.
Had some harsh gear leak from my delt and swell my arm like a hornet sting earlier this year. Bloods also came back lower than expected so I had to up the dose.
This shit just comes with the territory, and I will never understand why fuckers expect shit to be perfect and smooth all of the time.
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11-17-2019, 12:00 AM #20Junior Member
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I find that people have this mentality that your diet need to be 100% in check. You need to have a training plan tailored to your need specifically. You need to get 8 hours sleep. Full attention is given to these three variable but when it comes down to the gear all that fly's put the window. I always do thing 100% when I do something. For me that means finding the most repeatable source with confirmation of the goods. This is always how I have operated. If you read the thread you will see that I actually wanted the hot flashes to be from the gear. It would be away for to confirm my body is going through changes
When I was younger I use to smash meth. Three points strait into the veins. The second meth hits the system you gasp for air. That how you know it was good. Both arms have permits scars from injection gone wrong. I had two huge abscess. One on both arms that look like miniature volcanoes full of pus at the time. Now thats pain. Stop being a pussy about you injections. You have no clue what pain is until you miss the vien with three points of meth. I look forward to injection days. I love needles. It a fucked up thing that happens after smashing coke and meth. The best part is when you flag(Aspirate ). You know your in the vein. From there it is all bliss
I dont understand why fuckers cant read thread before posting
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11-17-2019, 06:49 PM #22Junior Member
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I am concerned that the gear could be fake. Since I joined here many people said be vary careful were you by from,it is a world full of scammers out there. I took this advice and I am now being careful. If I have the ability to test the gear then why not. I am not worried about infections. Money is also not a problem. Time is also not a problem. I am actually not concerned with the hot flashes. I posted to see if this was a normal reaction to TEST C. This would then confirm that my body is going through changes which is a good thing. Hot Flashes are the least of my worries. My only true concern is fake gear. I do have the ability to check it so I am going to.
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11-18-2019, 05:59 AM #23
I did read the thread, and wasn’t specifically talking about you. It was more a reply to Windex’s comments in agreement. I’ve seen a lot of stuff here (and in other places) that’s exactly what he described. Hang around long enough and you’ll see at least a few people freaking the fuck out over some of the most trivial shit.
As to your concern about the gear being fake: I’m not sure what testing you’re planning on doing, but most available stuff is only going to tell you if something is present, not if it’s dosed accordingly. I could sell you something labeled as 250mg/ml and in reality, it’s only 100 (or less).
To be fair though, test is so cheap that it’s often more likely to be overdosed than under, in my experience. That’s where the bloodwork comes in, but even that can be hit or miss depending upon how your body cleaves and metabolizes it.
As an example, a friend of mine on the exact same pharma TRT dose as myself, regularly comes back with bloodwork that’s 300-400 total lower, and 8-10 free lower. I also aromatize at about 33% of his rate, so my E2 is notably lower than his, even with higher serum concentrations. It’s just the difference in biology and even that shifts over time, so the best thing is to have a long trail of records to tell your own story.
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11-19-2019, 08:27 PM #24Staff ~ HRT Optimization Specialist
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If your gear is Innovagen, Pareto, or Zentec it's not going to be fake so long as you bought it from a rep.
Canada is not like other countries where there's 100 versions of Dragon Pharma for example. Each UGL is a single entity and there's only half a handful of big names in Canada.
The Roidtest you bought is literally useless. The ONLY type of test that is accurate is an HPLC Mass Spec reading. Coincidentally, the machine costs more than most people's vehicles, which is why it's only going to be found in labs, research facilities, universities, etc.
Here is an easy way to think about it without diving into the Biochemistry ;
Let's say you have a Dianbol tablet with 10mg of Diababol hormone. The ENTIRE weight of that tablet might be 5 grams (aka 5000mg). That means your active hormone is only 0.2% by weight. That also means the remaining 99.8% of the Dbol tablet is composed of preservatives, caking agents, filler, and so forth.
A Roidtest is not going to accurately differentiate the hormone of 0.2% compared to the remaining 99.8% of the tablet.
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11-20-2019, 04:50 PM #26BANNED
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test costs about $3 a bottle to make . not sure why anyone would bother to fake make it.. spend all that time bottling oil, making labels, marketing, getting customers, etc.. just to lose all your customers cause your gear was fake.
personally, I've been around for quite awhile and I've never come across any fake test or know of guys that have (under dosed, sure but not fake)
maybe a decade or two ago, making counterfeits of high quality brands was common. but now days everyone can make a legit 3$ bottle of test
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11-23-2019, 05:29 PM #28Junior Member
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Yes they did stop for the most part. I am constantly looking for sighs that the Testc is working. I bough this genetix brand when I first learned about this stuff. I jumped the gun and bough it without doing a bunch of research. I now found a Parelo rep. Wish I would have listen and done my research. Sick of wondering if the gear is legit. Some lessons need to be learned the hard way.
It is also hard to determine if I am getting stronger. I came back to the gym after some time off. All my lift are increasing. My size is increasing also. Probably muscle memoryLast edited by Noname81; 11-23-2019 at 05:31 PM.
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11-23-2019, 11:11 PM #29Junior Member
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*Sigh*
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11-24-2019, 01:12 PM #30
Its probably best you just don't cycle at all, maybe take up ski boarding or something
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its kinda an underwritten rule on bodybuilding forums .. if you can't debate someone just based on intellectual justifications for your argument or decisions and you have to stoop to ridiculing someones physique (that has pics posted) , then in order to do so you at least need to have physique pics of yourself posted as well for comparison sake
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11-24-2019, 06:36 PM #36Junior Member
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I'm done here. CJM is much more productive.
Your nothing without the drugs. An old man with no balls
Bite the curb fucker I then stomp
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Good luck lasting there when some people are members of both boards - changing your username does nothing.
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