Tren joint pain

**pksc** · 12-09-2019, 09:35 AM

Hi guys, it's my 3rd month on test/Tren cycle. I gained 12lbs in first 45 days, after that no gaining till date bcs of 100% appetite loss. My goal was 25-30(min. 20lbs), but I don't think I can even achieve 4-5lbs more in remaining time. Another major issue is joint pain which is affecting my workout. I'm thinking of increasing my Test blend dose to 800-1000mg and adding 25-50mg of anadrol *(ed). Let me know if it is going to make any improvement to my appetite and joint pain.

Current cycle:
Test blend- 400mg/week
Tren blend- 400mg/week
AI-0.25mg/EOD(it was 0.5mg till last month)
HCG - 1000iu/week

*My dbol got expired last month, and only have anadrol with me.

**Gallowmere** · 12-09-2019, 09:40 AM

Try dropping the AI altogether and using Nolva at 10mg/day instead and see if it helps.
At that test dose, you couldn’t pay me to run an AI, and it’ll do fuck all about the worst of the tren sides anyway.

**Wannabhuge14** · 12-09-2019, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by pksc

Hi guys, it's my 3rd month on test/Tren cycle. I gained 12lbs in first 45 days, after that no gaining till date bcs of 100% appetite loss. My goal was 25-30(min. 20lbs), but I don't think I can even achieve 4-5lbs more in remaining time. Another major issue is joint pain which is affecting my workout. I'm thinking of increasing my Test blend dose to 800-1000mg and adding 25-50mg of anadrol *(ed). Let me know if it is going to make any improvement to my appetite and joint pain.

Current cycle:
Test blend- 400mg/week
Tren blend- 400mg/week
AI-0.25mg/EOD(it was 0.5mg till last month)
HCG - 1000iu/week

*My dbol got expired last month, and only have anadrol with me.

High test with a lower dose tren is a great combo with anadrol added in. It will probably have more of a negative impact on your appetite. The high estrogen from the test works well with the elevated androgen levels with tren, especially for growth. I would drop the ai as that cancels out the benefits of high estrogen. For your joints sometimes a deload week will do wonders especially after lifting heavy for an extended period of time. You could also add in a lose dose of deca , that will mask the pain but not necessarily heal the underlying problem.

**Windex** · 12-09-2019, 12:04 PM

expired Dbol is not going to kill you. Some people even shop from overseas pharmacies and intentionally buy drugs that are expiring soon to save money.

In the future do not buy blends. Buy single ester. If you want to use multiple esters, then buy each one seperately.

**GearHeaded** · 12-09-2019, 12:11 PM

the title of your post should of been "AI joint pain". , not "tren joint pain" . Tren is not causing you joint pain at all, the AI your taking is.
your only running 400mg of test, an AI is completely unnecessary. also the AI is what is causing your weight gains to stall out. just by dropping the AI you'll start gaining more size again

**ZYZZ LEGACY** · 12-09-2019, 08:49 PM

Masteron would go down well in his cycle

**JaneDoe** · 12-09-2019, 11:11 PM

Trenbolone is progestic in nature. It can cause an individual to have gynecomastia if prolactin receptors are not blocked.
Yes, Masteron is great for blocking, 300-400 mg per week Seems like a solid dose to handle it.

**pksc** · 12-10-2019, 03:15 AM

Thanks for all replies, Ok, I'm dropping my AI for 1-2 weeks to see difference. As I had mentioned I also lost my appetite and barely able to eat 1000cal a day, so increasing my test dose to 600-800mg/week and adding 25-50mg of anadrol /ed will help me to achieve 8lbs in last month of my cycle?

*I was on cyproheptadine for 1st month of cycle, and I believe it helped me to maintain my diet

**And yes, I have high prolactin level (25, average is 1-17), with little sensitive nipples

**The God Himself** · 12-10-2019, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by pksc

Thanks for all replies, Ok, I'm dropping my AI for 1-2 weeks to see difference. As I had mentioned I also lost my appetite and barely able to eat 1000cal a day, so increasing my test dose to 600-800mg/week and adding 25-50mg of anadrol /ed will help me to achieve 8lbs in last month of my cycle?

*I was on cyproheptadine for 1st month of cycle, and I believe it helped me to maintain my diet

**And yes, I have high prolactin level (25, average is 1-17), with little sensitive nipples

I agree with dropping AI altogether. When I run AI and get low E2, my appetite dies. Whenever I get high E2, I get sugar crush and always hungry. AI might be a cause of your appetite loss.
Masteron will help with prolactin and nipples, I second that.
You can consider adding MK677 to your cycle btw, it helps with hunger too, not tried myself but whoever used it says that.
For your next cycles, EQ can help with hunger and will block aromatization in the long run, you won't need an AI.

I don't know what esters are there in your blend but if it contains short esters with long esters, consider pinning it more frequently.
Take sustanon for example, it has propionate in it. When you pin it twice a week, you're basically injecting yourself some good amounts of short esters along with long esters.
This is going to fluctuate your testosterone and estradiol levels basically, and may cause higher amount of aromatization (depending on your SHBG levels).
So next time, either pick a single ester or consider pinning more frequently. If your blend is identical to sustanon, I suggest pinning it ED or at most EOD, you'll get less bloating and less E2 sides.

**pksc** · 12-11-2019, 01:12 AM

Originally Posted by The God Himself

I agree with dropping AI altogether. When I run AI and get low E2, my appetite dies. Whenever I get high E2, I get sugar crush and always hungry. AI might be a cause of your appetite loss.
Masteron will help with prolactin and nipples, I second that.
You can consider adding MK677 to your cycle btw, it helps with hunger too, not tried myself but whoever used it says that.
For your next cycles, EQ can help with hunger and will block aromatization in the long run, you won't need an AI.

I don't know what esters are there in your blend but if it contains short esters with long esters, consider pinning it more frequently.
Take sustanon for example, it has propionate in it. When you pin it twice a week, you're basically injecting yourself some good amounts of short esters along with long esters.
This is going to fluctuate your testosterone and estradiol levels basically, and may cause higher amount of aromatization (depending on your SHBG levels).
So next time, either pick a single ester or consider pinning more frequently. If your blend is identical to sustanon, I suggest pinning it ED or at most EOD, you'll get less bloating and less E2 sides.

This is the last month of my cycle, I don't have masteron/mk677 with me. I'll take caber when cycle ends for prolactin. I have only primo, anadrol and expired dbol with me in spare.