Whoever’s taking Proviron Still need the Use of AI?

[sfbjj]

First of all I’m sorry if this sound stupid but I’m not a lazy researcher and I’ve tried to look up into this forum here to see about both drugs and I couldn’t find a concrete answer, however I saw about the proviron and there said about the low AI action that they provide while taking it, maybe it’s too soon but since my last thread here concerned about my E2 was too high I haven’t got any better, but last week my new gear(original gear of a good lab) arrived and together I got the proviron and Anastrozol, but I got a little confused here when I read the post about proviron so I had to make this one.
Still can’t make blood test bc everything still closed around here.

What are the right dosages for proviron? Bc I’m taking 50mg a day, and if I need to take the Anastrozol how much can I take per day?
Thanks to everyone who gonna take their time to answer it. Oss

[GearHeaded]

Anastrozol is poison .. should never be taken imo . your slowly killing yourself .. take all the proviron and test in the world and you'll be just fine,, throw in an AI though , and its a death sentence

[Getsomehate]

I don’t understand why it’s a death sentence .
I do understand it fucks up your cholesterol ,that by crashing estro your inner organs and health are at higher risk and that it’s a cancer drug but thats just by abusing AI , using it in big amounts just for precaution I guess .
I remember at the end of a cycle with 750mg test and var , my nips were sensitive af and my chest was swollen , took 1mg of Adex split into 4 x 0.25 along with nolva and the swole was gone , exams the following week , had my e2 perfectly on point .
Don’t know maybe it was something else .

[sfbjj]

Anastrozol is poison .. should never be taken imo . your slowly killing yourself .. take all the proviron and test in the world and you'll be just fine,, throw in an AI though , and its a death sentence

I understand your opinion bro but what if I’m taking it and still not getting any better on my E2?
I’m taking 500mg test cyp a week and 50mg proviron per day, this is the first week tho... I might be just very anxious to get this shit fixed but still haven’t felt any different

[GearHeaded]

I understand your opinion bro but what if I’m taking it and still not getting any better on my E2?
I’m taking 500mg test cyp a week and 50mg proviron per day, this is the first week tho... I might be just very anxious to get this shit fixed but still haven’t felt any different

if your taking 500mg of test, then your e2 should be elevated.. thats the whole point of taking test. if you don't want high e2 (for whatever reason), then don't take so much test its that simple.

I'm of the opinion that high estrogen is a benefit.. not sure why you want to take test, then take an AI to destroy the benefits of what test provides in the first place , mainly estrogen

[killionb12]

The main benefit of Testosterone is not estrogen. Test increases protein synthesis, recovery, RBC production and helps with cortisol output that breaks down muscle along with many other things. Estrogen is important but also having too high amount of estrogen in your body can also be detrimental to a man as well like Gyno,and erectile dysfunction. AI is not a death sentence if you used sparingly and only to keep estrogen levels low enough to not experience the sides mentioned. Long term usage yes it can wreck havoc on cholesterol etc but can be very useful during cycle since some people are extra sensitive to estrogen conversion like myself. I don’t want bitch tits bro.


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[sfbjj]

The main benefit of Testosterone is not estrogen. Test increases protein synthesis, recovery, RBC production and helps with cortisol output that breaks down muscle along with many other things. Estrogen is important but also having too high amount of estrogen in your body can also be detrimental to a man as well like Gyno,and erectile dysfunction. AI is not a death sentence if you used sparingly and only to keep estrogen levels low enough to not experience the sides mentioned. Long term usage yes it can wreck havoc on cholesterol etc but can be very useful during cycle since some people are extra sensitive to estrogen conversion like myself. I don’t want bitch tits bro.


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Thanks man, what would be your recommended dosage for the Anastrozol?

[Windex]

Thanks man, what would be your recommended dosage for the Anastrozol?

0mg. It's a cancer drug.

Masteron and DIM

[GearHeaded]

The main benefit of Testosterone is not estrogen. Test increases protein synthesis, recovery, RBC production and helps with cortisol output that breaks down muscle along with many other things. Estrogen is important but also having too high amount of estrogen in your body can also be detrimental to a man as well like Gyno,and erectile dysfunction. AI is not a death sentence if you used sparingly and only to keep estrogen levels low enough to not experience the sides mentioned. Long term usage yes it can wreck havoc on cholesterol etc but can be very useful during cycle since some people are extra sensitive to estrogen conversion like myself. I don’t want bitch tits bro.

AI's don't prevent gyno.. if your 'estrogen sensitive', then the solution is simple.. don't take so much damn Testosterone , lol

personally, I've taken 2000mg of test without an AI . I've got my E levels up to 600. feel great with high estrogen.
but for you sensitive little girls that can't handle high estrogen, you simply need to back down your dosage of test then and run drugs that don't aromatize. its absolutely absurd and counter productive to run test, which is meant to convert to estrogen, then take another drug (an AI) that stops the conversion to estrogen.
do you not see how stupid that is

[i_SLAM_cougars]

AI's don't prevent gyno.. if your 'estrogen sensitive', then the solution is simple.. don't take so much damn Testosterone , lol

personally, I've taken 2000mg of test without an AI . I've got my E levels up to 600. feel great with high estrogen.
but for you sensitive little girls that can't handle high estrogen, you simply need to back down your dosage of test then and run drugs that don't aromatize. its absolutely absurd and counter productive to run test, which is meant to convert to estrogen, then take another drug (an AI) that stops the conversion to estrogen.
do you not see how stupid that is

Am I high, or does anyone else’s susceptibility to side effects seem to go down the more they use something?

When I was a kid 500mg of test and some deca would make my nipples itch like a mother fucker. Nothing 10mg of nolvadex couldn’t handle, but still. Backne, bloated like a water buffalo, probably raked my blood pressure, but who knows cause I didn’t check it back then.

Fast forward years later, and I can’t take large amounts of test (amongst other things) and none of those side effects really occur anymore. Oh I might get some acne for a couple days during fluctuation, but that’s about it.

[GearHeaded]

Am I high, or does anyone else’s susceptibility to side effects seem to go down the more they use something?

When I was a kid 500mg of test and some deca would make my nipples itch like a mother fucker. Nothing 10mg of nolvadex couldn’t handle, but still. Backne, bloated like a water buffalo, probably raked my blood pressure, but who knows cause I didn’t check it back then.

Fast forward years later, and I can’t take large amounts of test (amongst other things) and none of those side effects really occur anymore. Oh I might get some acne for a couple days during fluctuation, but that’s about it.

exactly !

your body reaches a point of homeostasis, it accepts the hormones and you essentially become one with it and you adapt over time..

I find it interesting that guys refer to "side effects" as actual "side effects" .. lol . they are NOT 'side' effects. they are direct effects.
now sure, you may not want these 'effects' , but don't fucking call them "side effects" cause they are not side effects, they are direct mother fucking effects of the drug you are taking.. man up and accept it

over a period of years your body will adapt.. it will just become second nature. heck it will become first nature

[killionb12]

AI's don't prevent gyno.. if your 'estrogen sensitive', then the solution is simple.. don't take so much damn Testosterone , lol

personally, I've taken 2000mg of test without an AI . I've got my E levels up to 600. feel great with high estrogen.
but for you sensitive little girls that can't handle high estrogen, you simply need to back down your dosage of test then and run drugs that don't aromatize. its absolutely absurd and counter productive to run test, which is meant to convert to estrogen, then take another drug (an AI) that stops the conversion to estrogen.
do you not see how stupid that is

Really bro??? AI doesn’t prevent gyno? That’s a stupid ass comment. AI prevents the conversion of test to estrogen. Aromatase Inhibitor is what that stands for by the way. You are going to get someone hurt with your inaccurate information.

“Aromatase inhibitors (AIs) are a class of drugs used in the treatment of breast cancer in postmenopausal women and gynecomastia in men. They may also be used off-label to reduce estrogen conversion when using external testosterone. They may also be used for chemoprevention in high risk women.”


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[killionb12]

AI's don't prevent gyno.. if your 'estrogen sensitive', then the solution is simple.. don't take so much damn Testosterone , lol

personally, I've taken 2000mg of test without an AI . I've got my E levels up to 600. feel great with high estrogen.
but for you sensitive little girls that can't handle high estrogen, you simply need to back down your dosage of test then and run drugs that don't aromatize. its absolutely absurd and counter productive to run test, which is meant to convert to estrogen, then take another drug (an AI) that stops the conversion to estrogen.
do you not see how stupid that is

By the way I’m 6’3 275lbs in the offseason far
From little . I’m currently in contest prep at 245lbs single digit BF and 5 weeks. I have used up to 1 gram of test and had very little sides just a little puffiness in nips where I increased Ai a little and added in Nolvadex . Boom puffiness in nips gone.


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[killionb12]

Thanks man, what would be your recommended dosage for the Anastrozol?

Start with .5mg of Adex twice a week. Preferably day after pinning test if twice a week injections.


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[GearHeaded]

Start with .5mg of Adex twice a week. Preferably day after pinning test if twice a week injections.


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ignorant brainwashed fool..

275 pounds of pure knucklehead

https://jayccampbell.com/blog/estrog...ers-are-dying/

I'm going to get someone hurt, lol .. I get paid for a living giving steroid and fitness advice. what hole did you crawl out of.

if your running a basic cycle and your having to use toxic cancer drugs like AI's, then your a fool and don't know how to properly cycle AAS..
6'3'' and only 275 , you must be skinny scrawny then.. probably all the AI's your taking hindering your gains and your manhood and making you a little bitch

[killionb12]

ignorant brainwashed fool..

275 pounds of pure knucklehead

https://jayccampbell.com/blog/estrog...ers-are-dying/

I'm going to get someone hurt, lol .. I get paid for a living giving steroid and fitness advice. what hole did you crawl out of.

if your running a basic cycle and your having to use toxic cancer drugs like AI's, then your a fool and don't know how to properly cycle AAS..
6'3'' and only 275 , you must be skinny scrawny then.. probably all the AI's your taking hindering your gains and your manhood and making you a little bitch

Let’s put our pictures up then bro!! LOL proof is in the pudding.


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[killionb12]

ignorant brainwashed fool..

275 pounds of pure knucklehead

https://jayccampbell.com/blog/estrog...ers-are-dying/

I'm going to get someone hurt, lol .. I get paid for a living giving steroid and fitness advice. what hole did you crawl out of.

if your running a basic cycle and your having to use toxic cancer drugs like AI's, then your a fool and don't know how to properly cycle AAS..
6'3'' and only 275 , you must be skinny scrawny then.. probably all the AI's your taking hindering your gains and your manhood and making you a little bitch

And by the way. You are acting like a high school kid with the name calling. Grow up dude. Also, if you can get away without using AI then fine but better be safe than sorry and end up with Tits like you probably have. LOL


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[i_SLAM_cougars]

And by the way. You are acting like a high school kid with the name calling. Grow up dude. Also, if you can get away without using AI then fine but better be safe than sorry and end up with Tits like you probably have. LOL


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Why just not use Nolvadex and/or Masteron to block the estrogen at the receptors (so no Moobs), but still reap the anabolic benefits of having higher estrogen levels?

[GearHeaded]

Let’s put our pictures up then bro!! LOL proof is in the pudding.


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I'm just messing with you brother .. get a rise out of you

fine you are taller then me,, you weigh more the me

I still , though shorter, bench 315 for reps
I still have calves of steel

I still drive lambos when I need a rental car

I still own and run a bad ass gym

I made a million dollars and lived in a mansion on the golf course by time I was 30

I fucked the hottest women on the planet

I drive the nicest cars


my right hand is made out of iron

you really think you have something on me ... cause you brag about being a few inches taller then me. lol , thats your justification

[killionb12]

Why just not use Nolvadex and/or Masteron to block the estrogen at the receptors (so no Moobs), but still reap the anabolic benefits of having higher estrogen levels?

Water retention and acne for one which is caused by higher levels of estrogen. Also, higher amounts of water retention also can cause higher blood pressure. Look it’s a fine line and agree if you can avoid it then fine but most of us can’t and high levels of estrogen is not good for the most of us.


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[GearHeaded]

right hand of steel ,, and I'm loaded to the gills





oh wait ,, did I forget to mention I'm also a steroid genius and talented bodybuilding prep coach .. I know a thing or two about AAS

[killionb12]

I'm just messing with you brother .. get a rise out of you

fine you are taller then me,, you weigh more the me

I still , though shorter, bench 315 for reps
I still have calves of steel

I still drive lambos when I need a rental car

I still own and run a bad ass gym

I made a million dollars and lived in a mansion on the golf course by time I was 30

I fucked the hottest women on the planet

I drive the nicest cars


my right hand is made out of iron

you really think you have something on me ... cause you brag about being a few inches taller then me. lol , thats your justification

Hot women? LOL my wife is way hotter than them. I also bench 405lbs for reps. I also make a good living although not millions. I’m guessing you don’t either because millionaires don’t need to brag about it.



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[GearHeaded]

Water retention and acne for one which is caused by higher levels of estrogen. Also, higher amounts of water retention also can cause higher blood pressure. Look it’s a fine line and agree if you can avoid it then fine but most of us can’t and high levels of estrogen is not good for the most of us.

I slam cougars is a client of mine by the way.. he knows his shit and he knows it well. he has gotten way stronger and leaner and put on plenty of muscle the last year or so NOT messing with AI's.
same can be said of 40 other clients ..

AI use is a killer of gains and of health

[GearHeaded]

Hot women? LOL my wife is way hotter than them. I also bench 405lbs for reps. I also make a good living although not millions. I’m guessing you don’t either because millionaires don’t need to brag about it.



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AI use is making your brain toxic
give it a rest and you'll likely be 20x more successful and have a wife that brings other hot women in bed for you

[GearHeaded]

Hot women? LOL my wife is way hotter than them. I also bench 405lbs for reps. I also make a good living although not millions. I’m guessing you don’t either because millionaires don’t need to brag about it.



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just a word of advice ,, nothing more. you should get that gay tattoo band around your arm covered up with a real tattoo..
just being honest.. it does not do you justice at all. cover that gay ass shit up

[killionb12]

just a word of advice ,, nothing more. you should get that gay tattoo band around your arm covered up with a real tattoo..
just being honest.. it does not do you justice at all. cover that gay ass shit up

LOL we can agree on that. I got it as a teenager. Hoping to do a full sleeve soon. By the way nothing you share impresses me what so ever and fortunately for you they wouldn’t let me post the pic of my wife.

Another pic of me from today after sending to coach for updates bro.





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[GearHeaded]

LOL we can agree on that. I got it as a teenager. Hoping to do a full sleeve soon. By the way nothing you share impresses me what so ever and fortunately for you they wouldn’t let me post the pic of my wife.

Another pic of me from today after sending to coach for updates bro.





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I'm just messing with you brother.. nothing else to do amid this stupid Covid bullshit shut down, and my gym being forced to closed..

don't worry, I seen the blonde with the nice rack.
I personally prefer Latina women. but to each their own... and btw, I'm not trying to 'impress' you lol.. just a little bit of justification sent your way so you know I'm a real person with real things going on, and not some internet troll

[killionb12]

I'm just messing with you brother.. nothing else to do amid this stupid Covid bullshit shut down, and my gym being forced to closed..

don't worry, I seen the blonde with the nice rack.
I personally prefer Latina women. but to each their own... and btw, I'm not trying to 'impress' you lol.. just a little bit of justification sent your way so you know I'm a real person with real things going on, and not some internet troll

Sounds good bro! I feel you man. I think everyone has their own opinions and rightfully so. If not this world would be boring. Most of it is bro science anyway and we are all just trying to figure shit out. Good luck brotha with your goals man!


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[kelkel]

they wouldn’t let me post the pic of my wife.


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Trust me, I wish we could. Feel free to pm them to me!

BTW, what show you aiming for? You look great!

[killionb12]

Trust me, I wish we could. Feel free to pm them to me!

BTW, what show you aiming for? You look great!

Haha thanks man! It’s a bigger show here in the Midwest. Won’t share the name due to privacy reasons. Will share results on my log here on this board.


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[kelkel]

Haha thanks man! It’s a bigger show here in the Midwest. Won’t share the name due to privacy reasons. Will share results on my log here on this board.


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Understood. Solid work. Keep it up!

[Proximal]

That tie-in between your serratus and your obliques is killer on that pose. And there is that indentation where your lats come down. Sorry man, I teach Anatomy, sometimes it’s the subtle things that are the most impressive and noticeable for me. Great physique!

[killionb12]

Understood. Solid work. Keep it up!

Thanks man!!


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[killionb12]

That tie-in between your serratus and your obliques is killer on that pose. Sorry man, I teach Anatomy, sometimes it’s the subtle things that are the most impressive and noticeable for me. Great physique!

Thanks bro! Yeah I get that comment a lot with that side chest pose. I really appreciate the kind words! Hats off to you being a teacher. My wife is as well. You guys are awesome.


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