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    Help with a compound from the 90ís

    Re-reading a book on the Lance Armstrong doping scandal written by one of his teammates who is very open about what was used.

    Their doctors were from Europe. In 97 his first attempt was a clear fluid taken orally. The team called these red eggs which I believe refer to testosterone .

    It didnít pop up / get detected when tested 2 days later. He had drastically improved recovery and performance in 2 days as well. This was later to become a 1x per week or every week part of his regiment (not to close to race days) as well as EPO. HGH wasnít used by the Americans yet.

    Appreciate any insight, TY!

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    Got it. He later identified it as Andriol.

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    From what I recall Andriol was like oral nabeido. Oral testosterone Undecylenate, but I think the absorption rate of it was garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i_SLAM_cougars View Post
    From what I recall Andriol was like oral nabeido. Oral testosterone Undecylenate, but I think the absorption rate of it was garbage.
    He confirmed it again in the book. They were taking very low doses & it was used for recovery purposes it seems. JC, they kept their bf less than 4%; my God these guys were pain junkies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    He confirmed it again in the book. They were taking very low doses & it was used for recovery purposes it seems. JC, they kept their bf less than 4%; my God these guys were pain junkies.
    I wouldn’t doubt that they’re like 90% of body builders and they completely underplay their drug use age considering they’re known for giving themselves blood transfusions mid race lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    Re-reading a book on the Lance Armstrong doping scandal written by one of his teammates who is very open about what was used.

    Their doctors were from Europe. In 97 his first attempt was a clear fluid taken orally. The team called these red eggs which I believe refer to testosterone .

    It didnít pop up / get detected when tested 2 days later. He had drastically improved recovery and performance in 2 days as well. This was later to become a 1x per week or every week part of his regiment (not to close to race days) as well as EPO. HGH wasnít used by the Americans yet.

    Appreciate any insight, TY!
    The other way these athletes didn't get caught (maybe not Lance specifically) was they were having chemists make testosterone from animal derivatives. All synthetic testosterone is derived from plants (specifically yams at the time), so although it make look like biological testosterone it has a plant marker which is how they tested for PEDs.

    Well if you derive it from an animal source in stead it's going to look the same as human testosterone and pass clean.

    Thought that was a cool tidbit of info.
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    Really great book. The test/anabolic usage was minimal, as was HGH.

    These guys described having stick like arms, an ass that hurt to sit on, due to no fat and veins popping out of their riding shorts and legs. And then do insane amounts of riding. Bad-ass to the max.

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