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    Blood test review

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    These are my mid cycle blood results from 8 weeks into Test E 500mg 12 week cycle.
    im 30 years old and bf is around 20% <been training for over 10 years

    500 mg test E + anavar (week 6-12 50mg ed)
    250Iu HCG (twice a week) started from week 5
    no arimadex in this cycle
    until now no side effects from gyno but having low sex drive maybe after starting anavar
    1) does blood results seem normal and any signs of side effects ?
    2)do have to add arimidex to my cycle ? last cycle i was taking arimidex and after 8 weeks of blood test " E2" was 74.1 pg-ml as for this year without arimidex "E2" is extreme high 191
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    Labs look good, your E2 is through the roof. You said “until now no sides”. Assuming you’re having some estrogen related side effects?

    Looks like an easy fix and can add some arimidex . I’d start low and every other day
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    this was last year mid-cycle blood result and i was taking arimidex then we can compare e2 and testosterone with and without arimidex
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    First off your attachment doesn’t work...

    secondly we need to work on your sentence structure, what exactly is it your asking or stating?

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    any advice plzz
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    Are you having high estrogen sides? If so add some adex, exemestane, or arimistane.

    If you aren't having high e sides, then maybe just control things with tamoxifen .

    True, your e2 is way elevated, but so are your total t, free t and bioavailable t. Maybe its not awful to have e that high in those cases, if you aren't experiencing sides.

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    having low sex drive and sometimes fatigue and feeling under pressure ...so are these high estrogen side effect ? so you prefer me taking nolva or arimidex and how much ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hma View Post
    having low sex drive and sometimes fatigue and feeling under pressure ...so are these high estrogen side effect ? so you prefer me taking nolva or arimidex and how much ?

    Ok, now we’re talking. These are the examples we were looking for. YES! Definitely side effects of elevated E2 and your bloodwork supports that.

    Could start with .25 of arimidex every other day. Are labs easily accessible for you?
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    will start arimiidex 0.25 EOD until last pin of week 12 and yes labs are accessible to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by hma View Post
    will start arimiidex 0.25 EOD until last pin of week 12 and yes labs are accessible to me

    Labs will give the best picture. If .25 isn’t cutting it, you can titrate to .5 eod

    https://www.vantageurology.com/posts...erone-therapy/


    (Worth a read)

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    very helpful article and thanks
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    im just thinking out loud and sharing opinion, so alot of guys say estrogen is your friend and dont crush it and if your trying to put on more size and quality muscle then your going to want extra estrogen and water retention and let estrogen levels fly high otherwise in the case if you are estrogen sensitive you should keep them under control
    so what is the limit for too high estrogen ?
    what limit you should start controlling it
    when to take nolva or arimidex in each case

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    Quote Originally Posted by hma View Post
    im just thinking out loud and sharing opinion, so alot of guys say estrogen is your friend and dont crush it and if your trying to put on more size and quality muscle then your going to want extra estrogen and water retention and let estrogen levels fly high otherwise in the case if you are estrogen sensitive you should keep them under control
    so what is the limit for too high estrogen ?
    what limit you should start controlling it
    when to take nolva or arimidex in each case
    I know others will weigh in, but I agree that estrogen is essential for growth but can also cause big problems if left uncontrolled. Sometimes it can be a tightrope and it’s hard to paint it with a broad brush. I get by with really high levels and no need for an AI but do get some bloat and edema but not enough to warrant an AI.
    Makes it difficult to generalize, which is why managing your own symptoms is essential.
    In my opinion, symptoms tells the story and bloodwork backs it up.

    “Crushing” it isn’t the goal, but “managing” it is a good idea
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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilah View Post
    I know others will weigh in, but I agree that estrogen is essential for growth but can also cause big problems if left uncontrolled. Sometimes it can be a tightrope and it’s hard to paint it with a broad brush. I get by with really high levels and no need for an AI but do get some bloat and edema but not enough to warrant an AI.
    Makes it difficult to generalize, which is why managing your own symptoms is essential.
    In my opinion, symptoms tells the story and bloodwork backs it up.

    “Crushing” it isn’t the goal, but “managing” it is a good idea
    This may be the best explanation on the topic that I have ever seen. Well said!
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    Best advice would be to take an AI. Your E2 is fucking insane, i feel like shit if im around 90 points and your over double that. Id recommend an AI asap running a cycle, or drop your test down to a trt dose and run different compounds assuming you have researched what to run and how to run it. We can steer you in the right direction. You need to be most concerned with estrogen converting right now and get that under control
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