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    Clenbuterol Hilma Biocare + T3 Hilma Biocare + Liv52 + Ketotifen !

    Hy !
    I want to try some cycle but I don't know what is ok :
    - Clenbuterol Hilma Biocare + Liv52
    - Clenbuterol Hilma Biocare + T3 Hilma Biocare + Liv52
    - Clenbuterol Hilma Biocare + T3 Hilma Biocare + Liv52 + Ketotifen !

    What to chose?
    How many days and in what mode to take the pills?
    Day 1 ...
    Week 1 ....

    Thanks for help.
    Ps .How you measure your body fat? I use Garmin libra and I have 14% fat on 1.85 m and 83kg

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    Nobody? ??

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    You are 185cm tall and weight 83kg with 14% body fat. My personal suggestion would be to focus on gaining muscle and not dieting. That said, dieting with T3 without supplementing with testosterone is not wise as T3 will indiscriminately burn muscle as it will burn fat.

    That said, I see nothing wrong with the Clen cycle if you really feel like you want to run that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarmyg View Post
    You are 185cm tall and weight 83kg with 14% body fat. My personal suggestion would be to focus on gaining muscle and not dieting. That said, dieting with T3 without supplementing with testosterone is not wise as T3 will indiscriminately burn muscle as it will burn fat.

    That said, I see nothing wrong with the Clen cycle if you really feel like you want to run that.
    Thanks for help.
    So in this way is ok ?
    Clenbuterol Hilma Biocare + Liv52 + Ketotifen !

    I have aattached a picture from Garmin Libra. It is ok to measure in this way or other method?
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    How many days and in what mode to take the pills?
    Day 1 ...
    Week 1 ....

    30 days or 60 days ?

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    I run 40mcg/day for 6 weeks without any issues. Its never been a huge game changer for me, if you have everything else in check and Clen puts you over the top, go for it.
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    The last time I ran clean was a 2 week on/off cycle. Ramping up from 20mcg on day one and increasing by 20mcg every day up to a maximum of 100mcg per day.

    You could run the T3 for the 2 weeks that you are off the clen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie67 View Post
    I run 40mcg/day for 6 weeks without any issues. Its never been a huge game changer for me, if you have everything else in check and Clen puts you over the top, go for it.
    I understand that you need to start with 10 mcg, next day 20 etc.
    How many Celsius grade your body increase from clenbuterol ? In this way is a problem whit covid scan o every market shop.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Small View Post
    The last time I ran clean was a 2 week on/off cycle. Ramping up from 20mcg on day one and increasing by 20mcg every day up to a maximum of 100mcg per day.

    You could run the T3 for the 2 weeks that you are off the clen
    I am no so fat for T3... this what I understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flashxml View Post
    Thanks for help.
    So in this way is ok ?
    Clenbuterol Hilma Biocare + Liv52 + Ketotifen !

    I have aattached a picture from Garmin Libra. It is ok to measure in this way or other method?
    You will not need Liv52 for this (It's pretty useless and an old fashion protocol anyways). The Ketotifien have a tendency to make people very tired so be a bit careful there and you do not need it for at least two weeks if not three. I usually stick to 40mcg throughout but I tend to use it more for enhanced cardio performance where, for me, it works pretty well as I burn more fat that way than by the compound itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarmyg View Post
    You will not need Liv52 for this (It's pretty useless and an old fashion protocol anyways). The Ketotifien have a tendency to make people very tired so be a bit careful there and you do not need it for at least two weeks if not three. I usually stick to 40mcg throughout but I tend to use it more for enhanced cardio performance where, for me, it works pretty well as I burn more fat that way than by the compound itself.
    You take the for 8 weeks ?
    Do you have a program? How to take all pills, can you write here ?

    How about your body temperature from taking clenbuterol ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flashxml View Post
    You take the for 8 weeks ?
    Do you have a program? How to take all pills, can you write here ?

    How about your body temperature from taking clenbuterol?
    Plenty side effects with clen , but I never noticed high body temp.

    @ 60mcg there is serious trembling feeling in the hands, lasts for a few hours. Stomach cramps etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flashxml View Post
    I understand that you need to start with 10 mcg, next day 20 etc.
    How many Celsius grade your body increase from clenbuterol ? In this way is a problem whit covid scan o every market shop.
    Good question. Not much that I have noticed on Clen alone. When I take both clen and T3, like I am now, I am absolutely warmer. I haven't had any issues getting in places and I'm running between 98-99 degrees Fahrenheit when I'm moving around, so about 37.22 degrees Celsius. As I type this I am 98.1, 36.72 C.

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    I am back whit results "I forget to write "

    After 1 month of clenbuterol combined whit Ketotifen because to many affect on my body :
    - no slip after 4 days of Clenbuterol .. i manage to combating this whith Ketotifen. Take 2 pills before 2 hours to go to bad
    - head issue ,Big headaches ...I've got from pharmacy Caffetin
    -started whith 14% and finished with 12% body fat. From 83 kg to 79.5kg. In my routine have every day 3.2km running, diet of course ... so I lose body muscle and fat of course.



    Next week or two... I will start whit T3 and Clenbuterol. Why ? Because I want to lose more fat

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    Quote Originally Posted by flashxml View Post
    I am back whit results "I forget to write "

    After 1 month of clenbuterol combined whit Ketotifen because to many affect on my body :
    - no slip after 4 days of Clenbuterol .. i manage to combating this whith Ketotifen. Take 2 pills before 2 hours to go to bad
    - head issue ,Big headaches ...I've got from pharmacy Caffetin
    -started whith 14% and finished with 12% body fat. From 83 kg to 79.5kg. In my routine have every day 3.2km running, diet of course ... so I lose body muscle and fat of course.



    Next week or two... I will start whit T3 and Clenbuterol. Why ? Because I want to lose more fat
    So, you're running t3 and clen at the same time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Small View Post
    So, you're running t3 and clen at the same time?
    I will testnext week T3 and clean
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