Looking for suggestions/advice

[BS3915]

Will be starting only my 3rd cycle any day now, previous two have been test only & then a test with some anavar as my 2nd.

This cycle will be using Test E, previously have used the blends out there. Will likely be looking to add another compound in, anavar in reality didn’t do much for me in my eyes, ideally I’d like to stay away from oral but I am fully open to it.

What else is out there to add into with my test, will likely be taking 250mg a week with one jab a week. Previous cycles i got a bit stupid & ended up nearing 800mg+ a week.

My goals are to gain nice size, I’ve always struggled with adding weight naturally, I managed to gain 20kg naturally before any cycles which I was happy with but then I hit the wall, my natural weight before gym/eating for gains is about 70kg, I’m currently sat at 91kg, I’ve peaked at 95kg last cycle.

I don’t suffer many side effects from test other than I do get the old acne on my back but apart from that it’s the usual stuff which isn’t a problem for me.

Questions:
1) recommendations for additional aid with the test
2) is 250mg test once a week a “weight & size gain amount”
3) I plan to run a shorter cycle this time, I usually go for 12-16 weeks, I know the longer the cycle the longer the PCT, I only ever notice gains personally around 8-9 weeks in, is 12 weeks sufficient or a few weeks longer maybe?

PS. Hope this is in the correct sub forum...


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[charger69]

Will be starting only my 3rd cycle any day now, previous two have been test only & then a test with some anavar as my 2nd.

This cycle will be using Test E, previously have used the blends out there. Will likely be looking to add another compound in, anavar in reality didn’t do much for me in my eyes, ideally I’d like to stay away from oral but I am fully open to it.

What else is out there to add into with my test, will likely be taking 250mg a week with one jab a week. Previous cycles i got a bit stupid & ended up nearing 800mg+ a week.

My goals are to gain nice size, I’ve always struggled with adding weight naturally, I managed to gain 20kg naturally before any cycles which I was happy with but then I hit the wall, my natural weight before gym/eating for gains is about 70kg, I’m currently sat at 91kg, I’ve peaked at 95kg last cycle.

I don’t suffer many side effects from test other than I do get the old acne on my back but apart from that it’s the usual stuff which isn’t a problem for me.

Questions:
1) recommendations for additional aid with the test
2) is 250mg test once a week a “weight & size gain amount”
3) I plan to run a shorter cycle this time, I usually go for 12-16 weeks, I know the longer the cycle the longer the PCT, I only ever notice gains personally around 8-9 weeks in, is 12 weeks sufficient or a few weeks longer maybe?

PS. Hope this is in the correct sub forum...


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A couple of things came to my attention. First off test E should be at least twice weekly. I personally think that 250 is on the low side... I would say 500 mg per week. You might want to add deca or NPP in there. Probably 300 / week would be fine.
If you are using NPP, then you can go from 8 weeks on ( my preference, but everyone is different).If you are using deca, I would say 12, you could get away with 10, but not much less without frontloading. You should gain weight with that combo.
You will gain some water weight but don’t fret. The deca will also stay in your system long after you finish the cycle.


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[BS3915]

A couple of things came to my attention. First off test E should be at least twice weekly. I personally think that 250 is on the low side... I would say 500 mg per week. You might want to add deca or NPP in there. Probably 300 / week would be fine.
If you are using NPP, then you can go from 8 weeks on ( my preference, but everyone is different).If you are using deca, I would say 12, you could get away with 10, but not much less without frontloading. You should gain weight with that combo.
You will gain some water weight but don’t fret. The deca will also stay in your system long after you finish the cycle.


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Thank you for this, I thought once a week was a bit low, have always pinned twice a week (every 3 days as on the 4th day I feel an itch to pin) I’ve got 2 bottles of 250mg test E so I’ll most likely pin 1ml twice a week, that’ll last 10 weeks so I may get one more for the last few weeks.

Intrigued with Deca, I get quite bad joints which I know Deca will help, if I was going for 500mg test a week, am I right in thinking you want around 50% Deca to Test ratio?

Test E - 500mg = Deca 250mg?


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[Charlie67]

Thank you for this, I thought once a week was a bit low, have always pinned twice a week (every 3 days as on the 4th day I feel an itch to pin) I’ve got 2 bottles of 250mg test E so I’ll most likely pin 1ml twice a week, that’ll last 10 weeks so I may get one more for the last few weeks.

Intrigued with Deca , I get quite bad joints which I know Deca will help, if I was going for 500mg test a week, am I right in thinking you want around 50% Deca to Test ratio?

Test E - 500mg = Deca 250mg?

I know you have two bottles, and 10 weeks is fine. But I'd try to run a Deca/test E cycle longer, but its personal preference. And yes, 300 of Deca is fine as Charger suggested. You didn't mention HCG or anything, but its a thought if you're planning to PCT anyway.

Good luck,
C-

[charger69]

I know you have two bottles, and 10 weeks is fine. But I'd try to run a Deca /test E cycle longer, but its personal preference. And yes, 300 of Deca is fine as Charger suggested. You didn't mention HCG or anything, but its a thought if you're planning to PCT anyway.

Good luck,
C-

Thanks Charlie- I do not run HCG or PCT so I normally forget to recommend that.
I am glad someone Is keeping me honest.


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[charger69]

Thank you for this, I thought once a week was a bit low, have always pinned twice a week (every 3 days as on the 4th day I feel an itch to pin) I’ve got 2 bottles of 250mg test E so I’ll most likely pin 1ml twice a week, that’ll last 10 weeks so I may get one more for the last few weeks.

Intrigued with Deca , I get quite bad joints which I know Deca will help, if I was going for 500mg test a week, am I right in thinking you want around 50% Deca to Test ratio?

Test E - 500mg = Deca 250mg?


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I truthfully do not do things based on ratios. I have run low deca/ high test, high test/ low deca, high test and high deca.
The reason I said 300 deca was to see how you react. Deca stays In Your system for a long time.


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[BS3915]

I know you have two bottles, and 10 weeks is fine. But I'd try to run a Deca /test E cycle longer, but its personal preference. And yes, 300 of Deca is fine as Charger suggested. You didn't mention HCG or anything, but its a thought if you're planning to PCT anyway.

Good luck,
C-

I’m looking into using Deca as well as the test E, if I do go for it I’ll be getting another bottle of the test to go for another 4 weeks on top, so I’ll run 250/300mg Deca with 500mg Test E per week. With Deca I assume you start the Deca & Test simultaneously?

I’m between using Deca & maybe an oral of Tbol possibly, I have a bit more research to do for what suits me best still.

With regards to PCT I’ve only ever used a bit of Nolvadex but I think after this cycle I should go for a better PCT, I’ve looked at using HCG, what’s the usual course with HCG, I have read some people use it through their cycle? And some use it as a PCT


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[charger69]

I’m looking into using Deca as well as the test E, if I do go for it I’ll be getting another bottle of the test to go for another 4 weeks on top, so I’ll run 250/300mg Deca with 500mg Test E per week. With Deca I assume you start the Deca & Test simultaneously?

I’m between using Deca & maybe an oral of Tbol possibly, I have a bit more research to do for what suits me best still.

With regards to PCT I’ve only ever used a bit of Nolvadex but I think after this cycle I should go for a better PCT, I’ve looked at using HCG , what’s the usual course with HCG, I have read some people use it through their cycle? And some use it as a PCT


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My opinioN is HCG only on cycle. It keeps your testes “active”. When you go into PCT you are trying to get your natural things working again. Taking HCG is not getting things to work natural again. There are others that use it in PCT. read the stickies because there is a lot of information. Cloning and nolva for PCT.
I no longer use PCT so I don’t really keep up with advances anymore ( if there have been any). PCT is a “kickstart” to get things going natty again quicker. You can just do it naturally the way they used to and take nothing, but it will take longer.


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[BS3915]

I’ve done a bit of research today, few hours browsing numerous forums etc, I’ve decided I’m just going to go with 500mg Test E alone for 14-15 weeks, 3 vials worth basically.

If I am not satisfied around week 8 I may have another think about putting an oral.

I like to keep things simple so want to stay away from orals which require numerous tabs a day throughout the day, have a tendency to forget if it’s multiple times a day


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[BS3915]

CHANGE OF PLAN

Due to Covid in the UK we’re back to no gyms open, lucky as was going to start a 500mg Test E cycle that day, so I’ve held back till back open.

Giving me more time to have a think.

I’m thinking of getting 100x 10mg TBOL & running 250mg Test E a week with TBOL at 40mg a day for the first month, & when the TBOL has ran out up the test slightly until 10 weeks and then begin to taper back down.

Questions:

1) does the sound a reasonable cycle?

2) haven’t bought the TBOL yet but can get some from a source which are selling SIS, I’m not sure with SIS as you can find some many different reviews. It’s also half price on their site which is making me apprehensive...


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