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    My blood panel

    Am 50, 5'7" 170 fit and train
    Had some bowl work done last summer, may mess some numbers up, maybe. Am I good to go for a first Test C cycle or is there anything that should be looked at besides that one high flag? Thanks. Looks like my T is shit?

    Date Test Result Reference Range Flag
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am White Blood Count
    8.0 10^9/L
    4.0-10.0 10^9/L
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Red Blood Count
    4.6 10^12/L
    4.0-5.5 10^12/L
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Hemoglobin
    143 g/L
    130-170 g/L
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Hematocrit
    0.42 L/L
    0.39-0.50 L/L
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Mean Corpuscular Volume
    90.8 fL
    82.0-99.0 fL
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Mean Corpuscular Hemoglobin
    31.2 pg
    27.8-33.0 pg
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Mean Corpuscular Hemoglobin Concent
    343 g/L
    315-354 g/L
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Red Cell Distribution Width
    11.3 %
    11.4-14.5 % L
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Platelet Count
    314 10^9/L
    150-400 10^9/L
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Neutrophils # (Auto)
    4.6 10^9/L
    2.0-7.0 10^9/L
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Lymphocytes # (Auto)
    2.2 10^9/L
    0.6-3.2 10^9/L
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Monocytes # (Auto)
    0.8 10^9/L
    0.3-0.9 10^9/L
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Eosinophils # (Auto)
    0.3 10^9/L
    0.0-0.5 10^9/L
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Basophils # (Auto)
    0.1 10^9/L
    0.0-0.2 10^9/L
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Immature Granulocyte # (Auto)
    0.0 10^9/L
    0.0-0.1 10^9/L
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Ferritin
    249 ug/L
    15-300 ug/L
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Vitamin B12 Level
    189 pmol/L
    > 150 pmol/L
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Thyroid Stimulating Hormone (TSH)
    1.86 mU/L
    0.35-5.50 mU/L
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Urine pH
    5.5
    5.0-9.0
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Urine Specific Gravity
    1.015
    1.005-1.030
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Urine Protein
    Negative g/L
    Negative g/L
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Urine Glucose (UA)
    Negative mmol/L
    Negative mmol/L
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Urine Ketones
    Negative
    Negative
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Urine Blood
    Negative
    Negative
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Urine Nitrite
    Negative
    Negative
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Urine Bilirubin
    Negative
    Negative
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Urine Urobilinogen
    Normal
    Normal
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Urine Leukocyte Esterase
    Negative
    Negative
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Total Testosterone
    6.1 nmol/L
    3.0-27.4 nmol/L
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Urine Random Creatinine
    3.9 mmol/L

    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Urine Albumin/Creatinine Ratio
    ND

    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Sodium Level
    137 mmol/L
    137-145 mmol/L
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Potassium Level
    4.8 mmol/L
    3.5-5.0 mmol/L
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Creatinine
    74 umol/L
    58-110 umol/L
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Estimat Glomerular Filtration Rate
    102 mL/min
    >=60 mL/min
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Gamma Glutamyl Transpeptidase
    53 U/L
    15-73 U/L
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Alanine Aminotransferase (ALT/SGPT)
    30 U/L
    < 50 U/L
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Triglycerides Level
    3.52 mmol/L
    < 1.70 mmol/L H
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Cholesterol Level
    4.86 mmol/L
    < 5.20 mmol/L
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am LDL Cholesterol
    1.67 mmol/L

    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Non-HDL Cholesterol Calculated
    3.29 mmol/L

    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am HDL Cholesterol
    1.57 mmol/L
    > 1.00 mmol/L
    19 Jan 2021
    11:43 am Cholesterol/HDL Ratio
    3.09

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    This is hard to read. Post it in a more readable format or post only the relevant things... We don't need to know everything if it's within normal range and the things we need are your total test/free test/estradiol/shbg/etc.

    If you're 50 and have low T, why bother cycling? It's not like you'll keep any of it once you come off.

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    that was the problem trying to make sure that he includes everything, thats all I got and he wont do another soon, was difficult to get this one , the free test is listed, yeah the format sucks, its how this board pastes it for some reason. The testosterone posted is free test I think. Yes I will likely stay on if there isnt any issues on my first cycle. Everything is normal except tryglycerides ,but there is a note that it was a non fastened test for it and is incorrect #

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    its too bad that those levels werent tested or posted, now am fucked. thats why I had asked what specific things I need to tell DR to make sure are included, but didnt get an answer. Soo frustrating

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    You don't really need to know the other numbers at your age, they're just good to know before you start TRT in case you ever want to get off in order to verify your baseline. If your free T and total T are low and your estrogen is within the normal range (not high), then you should be good to go. As always, start with a very moderate cycle dose 400-500 mg/week and go from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    You don't really need to know the other numbers at your age, they're just good to know before you start TRT in case you ever want to get off in order to verify your baseline. If your free T and total T are low and your estrogen is within the normal range (not high), then you should be good to go. As always, start with a very moderate cycle dose 400-500 mg/week and go from there.
    I dont know about my estrogen, it seems to have not been included in this large panel. Basically feel OK, am active, work out, am strong, but fatigue quuickly and feel like shit on many days and dont sleep well anymore. When I am active I am strong and feel good, but have low motivation for anything, which got me into looking at testosterone levels and injections or doing higher 500mg doses and going forward. My nutrition is logged daily and is respectable and clean. In home gym 5 days and daily cardio.

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    Well, TRT and a cycle are different things and you will feel differently on each one. It's up to you whether you start with a cycle>TRT or TRT>cycle... eventually you'll know how both feel and what you prefer. When I'm on a cycle, I neglect basically every other interest I have other than lifting. When I'm on TRT, I still work out the same but I am calmer, feel more mental clarity, can enjoy my other hobbies more, etc. On cycle I'm more hyped up, aggressive, and angry. I get irritated easily and I don't like being around people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Well, TRT and a cycle are different things and you will feel differently on each one. It's up to you whether you start with a cycle>TRT or TRT>cycle... eventually you'll know how both feel and what you prefer. When I'm on a cycle, I neglect basically every other interest I have other than lifting. When I'm on TRT, I still work out the same but I am calmer, feel more mental clarity, can enjoy my other hobbies more, etc. On cycle I'm more hyped up, aggressive, and angry. I get irritated easily and I don't like being around people.
    I want /need to push through to another level now, so am thinking doing a 12 week Test at 4-500 and see how that goes. Then TRT. I can then do another 12 weeks way later in the year and maybe add a little xtra gear on top?

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    That's basically what I did. Except I started with the intention of TRT and slowly increased the dose up to around 800 mg by week 9. More is not better. At a certain dosage and after a certain time you start feeling lethargic, you can't sleep, you start getting edema in the legs/arms, cramps, harder to breathe, blood pressure is high, etc. Keep track of your blood pressure throughout your cycle. Buy an at home monitor if you don't have one. If you see consistently high numbers, dial it back or change the routine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    That's basically what I did. Except I started with the intention of TRT and slowly increased the dose up to around 800 mg by week 9. More is not better. At a certain dosage and after a certain time you start feeling lethargic, you can't sleep, you start getting edema in the legs/arms, cramps, harder to breathe, blood pressure is high, etc. Keep track of your blood pressure throughout your cycle. Buy an at home monitor if you don't have one. If you see consistently high numbers, dial it back or change the routine.
    yup have a monitor and reads pretty normal most of the time, check it religiously. I dont see anything on my panel that would give me second thoughts on starting at 12 week test. I still havent pulled the trigger on the order, wanted to wait till blood work cleared me. thanks for your inputs so far

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    If I'm reading it correctly your total T is around 175 ng/dl after conversion from nmol/l. If that's correct you should skip cycling right now and find a good TRT doctor and get examined for possible replacement. Hell, TRT would be like a cycle for you right now.
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    As a member of the 50+ club, I would suggest monitoring DHT, PSA and E2 sensitive, both pre and post TRT or cycling, in addition to what you have already pulled. Book the tests through ultalabtests or privatemdlabs or some such site of you need to.

    Edit to add: monitor blood work DURING in addition to pre and post. If you start trt, plan on every 3 months until you get doses lined up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    If I'm reading it correctly your total T is around 175 ng/dl after conversion from nmol/l. If that's correct you should skip cycling right now and find a good TRT doctor and get examined for possible replacement. Hell, TRT would be like a cycle for you right now.
    I am wayyy far away from any such DR and clinics, its not an option at all unfortunately. I am gonna have to do this myself and/or with help from you guys. If I did go on a 12 weeker should I drop the dosage from the usual 4-500 and see how I do and react?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    As a member of the 50+ club, I would suggest monitoring DHT, PSA and E2 sensitive, both pre and post TRT or cycling, in addition to what you have already pulled. Book the tests through ultalabtests or privatemdlabs or some such site of you need to.

    Edit to add: monitor blood work DURING in addition to pre and post. If you start trt, plan on every 3 months until you get doses lined up.
    Ill see if that is an option for me. I live far away from any dedicated labs. It has to be done online somehow and the nearest hospital for bloodwork. I had to get a virtual DR to get this requisition. I think any further work in the near future will be super difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forestdweller View Post
    I am wayyy far away from any such DR and clinics, its not an option at all unfortunately. I am gonna have to do this myself and/or with help from you guys. If I did go on a 12 weeker should I drop the dosage from the usual 4-500 and see how I do and react?
    Reach out to Defy Medical. Everything can be done virtually I'm sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Reach out to Defy Medical. Everything can be done virtually I'm sure.
    I am Canadian if that makes a diff? am sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forestdweller View Post
    I am Canadian if that makes a diff? am sure
    Ohhhhhhh yeah that probably changes things radically. I don't know how exactly but probably pretty significantly.

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    guess I should have mentioned I am on a Canadian board too, I like to get as much info and input from various sources.

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