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    Second Cycle Recommendations

    Currently on my first cycle and want to start researching my next one.

    My first cycle is:

    400mg test e/weekly
    500iu HCG/weekly

    pct: nolva clomid

    I’m 5’10, 165lbs, I have a lean build, hard for me to put on weight, but I’m strong as fuck.

    I want any recommendations you guys have for me to run for my next cycle. I was thinking tren but a lot of guys say it really fucks you up. I would only run low dose tho.

    My goals: I don’t want a heavyweight look, I like looking slim and built, veins popping, low body fat. I’d rather look shredded then look bigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinymuscles View Post
    Currently on my first cycle and want to start researching my next one.

    My first cycle is:

    400mg test e/weekly
    500iu HCG/weekly

    pct: nolva clomid

    I’m 5’10, 165lbs, I have a lean build, hard for me to put on weight, but I’m strong as fuck.

    I want any recommendations you guys have for me to run for my next cycle. I was thinking tren but a lot of guys say it really fucks you up. I would only run low dose tho.

    My goals: I don’t want a heavyweight look, I like looking slim and built, veins popping, low body fat. I’d rather look shredded then look bigger.
    "Hard for me to put on weight" = "I don't eat enough food to put on weight."

    It doesn't matter the cycle, gear doesn't overcome this. And if you want to be shredded, you need to learn to diet to accomplish that goal.

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    I eat enough to maintain my weight, like I said I like my current weight. I just want to know what type of steroid will help me out, my diet is extremely on point and healthy. I don’t wanna go past 170lb and have to buy a whole new wardrobe

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinymuscles View Post
    I eat enough to maintain my weight, like I said I like my current weight. I just want to know what type of steroid will help me out, my diet is extremely on point and healthy. I don’t wanna go past 170lb and have to buy a whole new wardrobe
    Your diet is going to dictate results, not steroids. If you have it dialed in to maintain your current weight then why not just cut calories to get shredded? You don't need steroids to do that and especially not if you aren't looking to put on muscle. Just my .02¢

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    I do want to put on muscle and lose fat. I am at my peak performance naturally. I was benching 315 naturally without juice at 165lbs. I know how to diet, I just want that extra push, possibly compete once covid is over

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    I get diet is major, I posted it above, what do I have to change from it then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinymuscles View Post
    I get diet is major, I posted it above, what do I have to change from it then?
    Do you track your calories?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinymuscles View Post
    I get diet is major, I posted it above, what do I have to change from it then?
    You literally just copied that boiler plate off one of these sites:
    https://globalbrandnews.com/transfor...t-for-4-weeks/
    https://www.maximuscle.com/sports/bo...ormation-Diet/

    I'm willing to bet you've never even done that diet. And besides, that doesn't even list portion sizes of things nor its macros.

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    Not looking to get lectured here, just a little guidance is all I ask

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    Quote Originally Posted by do_what_is_hard View Post
    You can run deca and primo or anavar stay away from harsh compounds. But you can put on lean mass without steroids tho. Try eating clean with a slight surplus of 200-400kcals. And yes stay far away from tren no matter how old you are it is for PROS ONLY.
    Thanks for a real response

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    u are 5'10 and 165.

    how do u have fat?

    something very off here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooseman33 View Post
    u are 5'10 and 165.

    how do u have fat?

    something very off here
    8% body fat, not as vascular and tight as i want to be tho

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    calling heavy bullshit.

    post a pic?

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    ^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by do_what_is_hard View Post
    You can run deca and primo or anavar stay away from harsh compounds. But you can put on lean mass without steroids tho. Try eating clean with a slight surplus of 200-400kcals. And yes stay far away from tren no matter how old you are it is for PROS ONLY.
    Well shit, there’s alot of pros walking around then me included lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Well shit, there’s alot of pros walking around then me included lmao
    Would you recommend for second cycle

    100mg tren e/week
    400mg test e week
    hcg 500iu week

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinymuscles View Post
    Would you recommend for second cycle

    100mg tren e/week
    400mg test e week
    hcg 500iu week
    Id recommend the diet section sir

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    what part of my diet do I have to change?

    I eat 5-6 meals a day. Here are the options I choose from.

    Breakfast options – select one from the following list each day.

    6 egg omelette with spinach (approx. 564 kcal)
    Large portion of granola, whole milk and sliced banana (approx. 750 kcal)
    1 or 2 bagels with peanut butter (approx. 380/760 kcal)
    2 Poached eggs, salmon and avocado (approx. 550 kcal)
    Morning meal/snack options – combine these to increase calories if needed

    Progain flapjack (approx. 324 kcal)
    Progain extreme shake (600 kcal)
    Handful of almonds (approx. 92 kcal per serving)
    Apple with peanut butter (approx. 200 kcal)
    Small portion of chicken breast, tomatoes, celery and brown rice (approx. 450 kcal)
    Lunch Options

    Double chicken breast, broccoli and rice (approx. 700 kcal)
    Salmon, sweet potatoes and sesame seeds (approx. 700 kcal)
    Chicken breast, salsa, brown rice and peppers (approx. 720 kcal)
    Vegetarian bean chili burritos (approx. 900 kcal)
    Tinned tuna, quinoa, avocado and broccoli (approx. 500 kcal)
    Snack options (select 1 or 2 per day depending on calories)

    Dark chocolate (a single ounce is 153 kcal. Eat as much as your surplus allows)
    Mass gainer shake (approx. 600 kcal)
    Cup of mixed nuts (approx. 640 kcal)
    Beef Jerky (approx. 410 kcal)
    Dinner options

    Tuna steak with olive oil, two sweet potatoes and quinoa (approx. 800 kcal)
    Sirloin steak, white rice and fried egg (approx. 950 kcal)
    Burger with lean beef, fries, white bread roll, cup of green beans (approx. 1450 kcal)
    Tuna, pasta and Bolognese sauce (approx. 600 kcal)
    Chili con carne with rolls of bread (approx. 700 kcal)

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